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From: Susan (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:36:45 -0600 (CST)


To all,

My intentions were not to create any type of debate/problems/ etc - rather, because this is a women's forum, I felt comfortable asking if it's okay for a doctor to use his/her discretion about what to tell or not tell a patient. Not attacking anyone, but felt that perhaps some people should be aware that if they really want to know the specifics of their case, they may need to ask detailed questions. I don't think I said anything negative about anyone but please take my apology if I did. I wonder what rights patients do have and what they apply to. Is there a link on this site that gives these types of details?

As for the following:

OK Ladies lets end this.

#1 The person that posted the statement to the Physicians List is Not a physician. CM stands for Certified Midwife

**** Are CMs recognized medical professionals? For instance, like they're used in HMOs?

#2 IMHO it is not our place to copy other peoples posts from other lists and bring them to Another forum to question.

***** Apologize, thought any information was available for questions. Won't repeat the same again.

#3 I understand you (the original poster) did not use any one's name but; after everyone evidently ran over to the list to read about it someone DID use the posters name.

***** Just curious, do you think that it's prudent for patients to me more aware of not just their current medical situations but how they are dealt with as well? I think it's kind of important that our needs are taken seriously and that our desire to know all the details should be taken into account. But..if I worded that incorrectly...sorry for the misunderstanding.

#4 Is there no such thing as Decency for the privacy of other people left anywhere?

***** When we post here in this forum, it's for others, doctors included, to see what our problems and concerns are. In the same light - rarely do the physicians get into heavy medical jargon on this sight and a few of us like to do searchs on specific conditions to see how different doctors approach them. Again...your message is heard and the crossover won't occur again.

#5 I have been thinking Long and Hard of late about making this a Truly Monitored Forum. I go back and forth on this thought because it would of course take a lot of work and at the same time would remove the ability to post and receive a reply almost instantly. But with the threads of late I do have to wonder if we have lost all sense of what this Women's Health Forum at OBGYN.net is all about.

**** May I ask what specifically would be monitored and how is it possible to determine what's a woman's issue per se? I just wonder if both the women and the medical professionals come back w/a little extra information not just on a topic, but in how to regard each other. Just an observation.

It's Not a place to lash out at Anyone! That means the medical profession as well as each other. So you don't like tubals, hysterectomies, the sex of your physician, me.......well the list goes on and on. Of late some of the posters are against Everything! Someones out to get you no matter what anyone says. I for one am sick of it!

This is a safe place for women to ask questions about medical conditions, treatments and outcomes. It is Not a place to email back and forth with a personal agenda. There a a lot of Lists out there for folks that want to chat back and forth, flame, or whatever it is that people do with their spare time so I suggest those that have this need should go to those lists and join with others that agree with their way of thinking.

This is Not the place for that kind of posting. Medical Professionals and women around the world receive this forum in digest form and I for one don't like my email box filled up with this kind of posting.

#6 Those of us that want to keep this forum the way it was intended to be do not want to be punished for the inconsiderate few who continue to dig up old posts and rehash thoughts from months ago or start new threads just to get everyone worked up and then leave.

**** Didn't realize this had been brought up before.

I would greatly appreciate it if we could go back to what we are supposed to be. If anyone doesn't understand what that is please read the Instructions.

To Lea:

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Susan, I remember when I was pregnant with my first child one of my
concerns aside from the "is my baby healthy?" was, "is my baby going to
be too big?" (I received a similar response to the one quoted below).
It's a common worry and concern for many women and there is nothing
wrong with a doctor reassuring his patient that she can do this and
reminding her that nature has a unique way of dealing with babies being
carried and delivered.  Of course, the woman should ask the what-if's
and receive honest, factual answers from the doctor.  But really, I
don't know the statistics, but I can imagine that the incidence of a
c-section being performed strictly upon the basis of the baby being too
large is relatively low compared to other reasons for c-sections.  I see
no harm in trying allay stress and worry when no other factors deem the
stress/worry as necessary.

*** I agree, but I still think many patients can know the full details AND be reassured by their doctors. I guess I think their shouldn't be any information withheld. I'm worried that if women don't ask - they're not told. If you're not a doctor, how do you know what questions to ask?

Susan

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Susan





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