WOMENS-HEALTH Messages for March, 1999: Re: Is this legal?

Re: Is this legal?

From: hanna (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:51:24 -0600 (CST)

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Susan,

I'm not sure if this type of practice is legal but it is most certainly lying to a patient who is paying big bucks for the pack of lies. I most certainly would not trust a Doctor that has lied to me and I can say this as fact, I was deceived to in the same manner.

Please, don't get me wrong, I would still have done a TOL even knowing that I had a small pelvis with converging sidewalls but I don't think I would have let the Doctors (not the same one who diagnosed me) let me labor like I did. I was at 9cm for 10 hours with a temp. ranging from 101 to 102.5 with meds. during this time. The baby was also in trouble twice and needed to get him out with forceps the second time. I gave birth by VBAC and now have a prolapsed uterus and cystocele witch will mean more complicated surgery to repair than a c/s would have been. This to me is not a successful VBAC! I would like to ask Magie Dacko, CM if any of these patients that she lied to ended up with prolapsed pelvic organs! Unfortunately you found this at a forum that the patients point of view is NOT welcome. I do wish that doctors like Dacko had respect for their patients! I now have a doctor who is very open with me and willing to listen to my concerns and wishes even IF I should decide on a repeat c/s (lucky me!!! ;-))

--
Hanna

At Wed, 31 Mar 1999, susan wrote:
>
>Just wondered, is this legal to do? Can doctors utilize a mind over
>matter approach? I thought that patients were to be informed of all
>conditions??
>
>--
>Susan
>
>Direct quote from ob_gyn_l:
>
>"In 20 years I have NEVER told a woman her pelvis was too small, no
>matter
>how small it seemed.......and in twenty years my c/s rate has remained
>approx.  2% (out of over 1400 deliveries), and my VBAC success rate is
>100%.
>
>In no uncertain terms I tell all my patients that they have huge, roomy,
>pelvises and that a baby of any size would fit easily. I tell them that
>women without underlying medical conditions such as diabetes, grow
>babies
>that are just the right size for their bodies to deliver.  I reaffirm
>with
>them at every appointment that birth is a normal function of the human
>female body and that she is the finished product of thousands of years
>of
>women having babies successfully. I make comments all the time about how
>well the baby's head fits so comfortably in her pelvis.  I remind them
>that
>the reason they are waddling around is because their pelvis is getting
>looser and wider and softer for that baby to come through.
>
>On the wall in my prenatal rooms I have a dilation chart and I point out
>the 10cm circle on occasion to remind them just how open they are going
>to
>get during labor.
>
>The mind/body connection is very strong, and I find women believe and
>take
>very seriously what they have been told about their bodies.......this is
>the basis of most eating disorders. "
>
>Maybe all this seems silly to many of you, but it seems to work, and it
>costs nothing, damages no one and makes women feel good about
>themselves.
>What is there to lose?
>
>--
>Susan C
>

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