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WOMENS-HEALTH Messages for July, 1998 by thread
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Starting: Wed Jul 1 05:27:59 1998
Ending: Fri Jul 31 22:52:23 1998
Messages: 1058
- What does a stage classification of endometriosis mean? Caroline
- Rectal bleeding anonymous@obgyn.net
- Preeclampsia's return? Lisa
- 1 Hr GTT Cutoff Lisa
- Vaginal Atrophy and Premarin..and another thought Mary
- colon cancer ? tc
- Question for Dr Ind regarding Pill Myths Carolyn
- Another pill myth Thomas
- Menopause diagnosis Victoria
- Re: Methods of contraception - for contraceptive users to reply Thomas
- Pill Myths - for pill users to reply Thomas
- Groin pain Diane
- A new question about an old subject.... Anita
- Methods of contraception - for contraceptive users to reply Thomas
- labour complication maurizio
- menses Nina
- Re: Repost of Repost (RE visit, what to expect?) Rose
- Vaginal Atrophy and Premarin Mary
- inducing amenorrhea in brides gabriel tenembaum md
- Miscarriage chat tonight Mary
- Triphasic versus Monophasic Birth Control Pills Stephanie
- endometriosis/lupron Barb
- ergggg! EMB's Suck! Jennifer
- Bladder Kathy
- Incompetent Cervix Vincent
- progesterone injections Russ
- ectopic pregnancy & miscarriage Katie
- Prolapsed Uterus dietgenie
- Brown discharge after masterbating Stephanie
- Tightening of Vaginal Walls During Intercourse Stephanie
- LEEP and pregnancy Angela
- nipple retraction a.
- Help!Two weeks after hyst.and bleeding! Janet
- cervical dysplasia, atypical cells, hpv Andrea
- Trying to get pregnant after miscarriage/D&C AJ
- clitoris and surgery Terri
- Endometriosis and Zoladex treatment Soos
- Vomiting blood while pregnant Vivian
- How soon can it happen? Lisa
- no answer to my previous question kathleen
- Did the morning after thing...now what? Anonymous
- intrauterine torsion of testis Christy
- lupron Barb
- progesterone level test Russ
- Re: WOMENS-HEALTH digest 15 anonymous@obgyn.net
- help is this a sign or the flu Laura
- Incompetent Cervix & future pregnancies Colleen
- ENDOCERVIC/EXTOCERVIX W/ SQUAMOUS METAPLASIA Helen
- alkaline or acidic treatment for UTIs? Eve
- doctors who could answer e-mail questions? Eve
- Re: current Bacterial Vaginosis Karen
- Re: Bacterial Vaginosis or Trichomoniasis? Karen
- Why so much discrepancy in hysterectomy advice? Susan
- Switching pill brands--should I expect side effects? REPOST CyberT
- Pitting edema and slightly elevated BP in pg Beverly
- First time mothers, over age 35 Amy
- This Week In Chat Mary
- period problems shannon
- Pregnancy??? Susan
- Oprah... anonymous@obgyn.net
- Threatened Miscarriage Ronda
- I just really wanted some straight answers for once Cheri
- Spotting after cerclage Jas
- PMS Painful breasts getting worse Ginger
- pregnancy and placenta Andrea
- Re: gular spotting daryl
- Re: bartholin abscess treatments- marsupialization vs. window Kyra
- Treatment for urethral caruncle ? jane
- Stroke/Bells Palsy? Ami
- female itching again Cheri
- late pill or missed pill? AMD
- abnormal periods Wendy
- Endo and Laser Surgery Barbara
- TTC after tubal surgery Julie
- Switching pill brands--should I expect side effects? cyberT
- NFP question Suzanne
- Stopping the Pill Suzanne
- Re: Amnio; morbidity vs mortality Joyce
- Severe Itching of Breast Areola Bernice
- Endometrosis Debbie
- strange symptoms Traci
- Positive OPK vs. BBT rise Spike
- abnormal pap, CIN 3 and pregnancy Dawn
- Diflucan 150 mg anonymous@obgyn.net
- Yeast infection Melanie
- Endometriosis Brad
- Question on EMB Again!!! Jennifer
- molar pregnancy/gtn Karen
- adhesions/ bleeding? mjak
- Re: Vasa Previa Dina
- Re: Blood Clots Dana
- tubal reversal Aida
- Low Energy anonymous@obgyn.net
- Re:In-Reply-To: <anonymous@obgyn.net> anonymous@obgyn.net
- What is the significance of an ESR in the mid 80's? Helen
- Breast Pain Crystal
- Feeling fluttering in stomach--not pregnant! Susan
- women and weights Karyn
- Time for the morning after pill? anonymous@obgyn.net
- Time for the morning after pill? anonymous@obgyn.net
- Repost: D&C question AJ
- Re: Earlier post (RE visit) Rose
- Missed Period Rebecca
- Ultrasound: What does dolichocephaly mean? Heather
- Vaginal/bacterial infections Carol
- Vaginal bleeding with bowl movements Sue
- Dangerous Activity during early pregnancy Maryann
- possible pregnancy Lena
- RU486 as treatment for endometriosis? Claire
- Re: Vaginal discharge Marina
- Reasons for Amnios Nicole
- laparoscopy and then some.... Barb
- Is this misleading information? Tracy
- Delivery Risks Next time Christy
- For those interested.... anonymous@obgyn.net
- OBGYN.net UPDATE W/P barbara
- OBGYN.net Update W/P Barbara
- pain during penetration Cristi
- Pain/tearing sensation Dianna
- Thank You Drs.Hill and Ind M.E.Daniel
- low Hb 1 wk post menses Angela
- Fw: Help with myths. Mary
- Irregular Menstrual Cycles Joni
- Re: Egg harvesting and storage anonymous@obgyn.net
- Irregular menstrual cycles Joni
- Ovulation has occured and now experiencing really sore/raw throat.... Carmen
- Re: MENAPAUSE carol
- ovary cyst-- please respond! kaci
- postpartum depression Kelly
- Yeast Infections Melanie
- Birth Announcement (long) anonymous@obgyn.net
- QUESTION RE BLEEDING Rhonda
- rectocele Cory
- need opinion from dr. laura
- apirin during 35th week kathleen
- Glucotrol Treatment for PCOS Mary
- Re: ectopic???? anonymous@obgyn.net
- large ovarian cyst kaci
- fibriods cheryl
- Re: Not to Travel when baby's due Sean
- EMB Jennifer
- Not to Travel when baby's due Sean
- Please answer question about D&C AJ
- Gynecological Leiomyosarcoma Ray
- Re: Postpartum Depression Kelly
- Re: Dr Ind - carried away??? anonymous@obgyn.net
- I need information on Depoprovera Schalet
- Re: 25wks pregnant - oops Elizabeth
- Re: 25wks pregnant - discharge & cervix Elizabeth
- Re: Dr Ind - carried away??? Elizabeth
- Appropriate weight gain Jill
- menstruation and bladder pressure Eve
- Re: High FSH and High Estrogen Mary
- Apologies for getting carried away Thomas
- Re: 25wks pregnant - discharge & cervix Sue
- Can you still have a period and be pregnant? Alicia
- Need help with peri-menopausal symptoms Carl
- Postpartum Bleeding Christy
- Salpingitis without Risk Factors??? M.E.Daniel
- Conception, Pregnancy Information Adrienne
- loose vaginal opening M.Gonzalez
- Midwifery Q & A and Miscarriage Chats Tonight! Mary
- 4th Degree Complications Amy
- Venous Lakes Mirine
- ovulation?? Laura
- Five day stay in hospital for hysterectomy was well needed! Janet
- Safety of Lotions During Pregnancy Yasmine
- More info regarding High Blood Pressure post Annette
- I'm being ignored Jennifer
- complications with retroverted uterus in pregnancy Katherine
- Mircette Charlene
- Who can I contact for information? Schalet
- Differing opinions from my doctors on enlarged uterus Susan
- Getting pregnant/herpes Kathy
- Post Pill Problems anonymous
- HELP!! Concerns about intercourse during mestration Reagan
- Thursday Chats: "Welcome to Midwifery: Q & A" and "Miscarriage"-CORRECTION! Mary
- Thursday Chats: "Welcome to Midwifery: Q & A" and "Miscarriage" Mary
- Re: RE visit Rose
- postmenstrual anemia? Angela
- level 3 sonogram mirine
- heavy bleeding, clotting and cramps Helen
- perimenopause as a result of surgeries Kris
- GERD during pregnancy Debra
- adult acne Linda
- sclerotherapy injections Ronna
- Thanks for all the help! Betty
- Ovarian cyst Leona
- bacterial infections Norma
- David Wiseman in chat tonight "Prevention of Post-Surgical Adhesions" Mary
- painful intercourse Jack
- second miscarriage Tracy
- Ovulation Lana
- cervical stenosis Kathy
- Amenorrhea Christine
- yeast infections sophia
- What is a friable cervix? Schalet
- balanced translocation & pregnant kelly
- Ovulation question Darcy
- painful pap smear Kathy
- Most Unusual Bleeding Rhonda
- please cancel my subscription anonymous@obgyn.net
- Xanax taken in early pregnancy Marcy
- Endometrial currettings Jennesse
- Breast cyst Diane
- This Week in Chat - New Addition Mary
- question not asked Angie
- high blood pressure Annette
- also curious about VBAC Iris
- Pellets Estrogen FDA Approval?! Jan
- Undescended Testicle and Fertility anonymous@obgyn.net
- Re: Two miscarriages, one late, one early; progesterone level .08 Jenny
- semen allergy Julia
- STRETCHED LABIA EMMY
- Return of period after delivery LYNN
- Dr. Montgomery, Re: your response to flutters Amy
- Two sacs, one yolk Marie
- Re: How safe is a VBAC? Lynn D. Montgomery, M.D.
- clear fluid in luteal phase. Christine
- flutters veronica
- Gynera Contraceptive Pills- what are the risks and benefits? don
- Re: Depo Provera (still confused) Schalet
- irregular bleeding Schalet
- Info. Amanda
- Which is the BEST BC pill? Joanne
- Cystic Mastitis Jonell
- How safe is a VBAC? Sherry
- breastfeeding and alkaline phosphatase/time frame for postpartum liver dysfunction Carolyn
- lengthy and scanty periods Sharizad
- REPOST: 2nd trimester concerns Elizabeth
- scanty period Sharizad
- sudden fluid release with ovarian cyst dana
- Re: WOMENS-HEALTH digest 1 Joel
- Re: WOMENS-HEALTH digest 1 Joel
- Bleeding during Cycling anonymous@obgyn.net
- Hormones? Tracy
- Fundal height; transverse position; placenta previa Cecille
- Re: Cramping and pelvic pain M
- wacky period Sharizad
- Oops BIG TIME!!! Roberta
- Right sided pain Kelly
- OBGYN.net Osteoporosis UPDATE Roberta
- benign cell changes Georgina
- Are airbags safe in pregnancy? Helen
- Fw: latex allergy and current practice of using latex glove for cold therapy Mary
- Premetrium and Pregnancy Natalie
- Severe Pain and Scar Tissue? Sue
- Low sperm count/mobility Sue
- Laporoscopy anonymous@obgyn.net
- Question about the pill Yvett
- Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Lynne
- Heart condition, cancer risks and HRT Betty
- Is this a hormonal problem?? anonymous@obgyn.net
- herpes Blondie
- I viewed the video of my diagnostic laparoscopy and have questions. Helen
- Re: masturbation and skipped periods Carolyn
- Re: masturbation and skipped periods valerie
- PCOSupport Chat Tonight Mary
- adenomyosis/endo/lupron katy
- spotting valerie
- Re-Occuring Endo ? Veda
- Leg Cramps Yasmine
- Dazed and confused... Susan
- chronic bladder, urethra & pelvic pain Sally
- FDA Approval of-Estrogen- Hormon Pellet Therapy Jan
- Dyspareunia, perhaps from episiotomy scar... Chuk
- Another blow Betty
- Can't swallow (pills) fast enough! Becca
- Hair loss at 20 a mystery! Kim
- hormonal acne? Maddie
- Re: Menstrual cramping during exercise Julie
- Starting clomid:What to expect? Naureen
- wrong e-mail Carol
- vulvar Intraepithelial Neoplasia Carol
- Pre-Eclampsia / RH factor Kathy
- Ultrasound has made me depressed...please help! Betty
- Propecia for hair loss question Jas
- Problems associated with D&E's and D&C's TINA
- Prog. levels in 2nd trimester--Doctors??? Elizabeth
- BBTs and Pills--do they mix? Amanda
- I need advice D
- Fibroid treatment blocking blood flow via plastic particles Mary
- Jogging, Pregnancy, and Miscarriage Joshua
- Re: Electrocoagulation Fibroid Procedure NELLA
- Re: Electrocoagulation Fibroid Procedure NELLA
- anyone who has had tubal reversal please respond!!! Laura
- BBT and bleeding Molly
- role of Ca 125 in follow up of endometrrial carcinoma Josephine
- It's a question from one of your advisors:) Marna
- Post-pregnancy weight problems AMD
- hormones CHRIS
- Hormaon Pellet Therpy Jan
- vaginal worts Damian
- Does A Tubal Ligation Damage Any Abdominal Muscles? krissy
- To anyone who has reoccuring ovarian cysts on BCP Ann
- A doctor's opinion for pg termination/mother's health, please. Vivian
- Re: Are CA125 tests necessary? anonymous@obgyn.net
- Weight Loss During Ninth Month of Pregnancy Yasmine
- 2 Overian Cysts Shelly
- atypical fibroid tumor and pregnancy Sonya
- Mircette Charlene
- luvox+pregnancy cyndi
- Oprah Jean
- alkaline drinks Eve
- Plugged nipple pore? A.
- OPRAH/OPERA and Alternatives to Hysterectomy Roberta
- Irregular Periods Cameal
- OPRAH Loves OBGYN.net Barbara
- BBTs and pills Amanda
- TwoThursday Chats - Open Endometriosis Association; Miscarriage/Pregnancy Loss Mary
- Blood Test To See If You Have Cancer Robin
- Sex after hysterectomy Joanne
- Endometriosis and fibromyalgia Brenda
- Ovarian cysts and treatment for reoccurence Liz
- Recurrent Miscarriages Lori
- Connection between folic acid and stomach upset? Sue
- ACOG publications Marcia
- semen allergy Julia
- Doctors - Are long Menstrual Cycles ok? MaryJ
- sigmoidoscopy and endo Ronna
- sigmoidoscopy and endo Ronna
- Is there a relationship between fluid intake and amount of amniotic fluid? Sian
- tests for DUB Andrea
- need help! mjak
- Dr's-low amniotic fluid-2nd pregnancy-more info Lori
- Irregular Period despite Contraceptive Pill Tanja
- Cloth menstrual pads--a question for anyone Michaela
- Excessive fluid around ovaries Sandy
- High Testosterone & Libidio Alix
- If you live in the Phoenix, AZ area...and have Fibroids anonymous
- Old episiotomy scar......possible surgical repairs 28 years later Carol
- Anatomy of clitoris Cynthia
- What could be my unlying problem? Lynda
- Estratest HS Mary
- Sex drive after hysterectomy - whoa! Jean
- Re: infection kimberly
- horrible pain angela
- Vaginal Odor Gina
- "My doctor never said anything about this." Sarah
- IUD Inserted 14wks ago - STILL SPOTTING!! Jo-Anne
- Intercourse frequency for pregnancy Joshua
- Symptoms of Large Fibroids Linda
- DR. HILL'S Web Site Robin
- Vulvar Itching Robin
- Dr's-low amniotic fluid-2nd pregnancy Lori
- sex drive after hysterectomy? Susan
- Re: cysts anonymous@obgyn.net
- Is this NORMAL?? Becky
- Appointment with surgeon Terri
- HRT and irregular periods Beverley
- IUD Sharizad
- staying healthy and backache Sharizad
- Weekly OBGYN.net Chat Schedule Mary
- Sex after cerclage cynthia
- pregnancy erin
- preeclampsia Shauna
- illustrations Cheryl
- Postponing period Diane
- HPV Debbie
- wetness anonymous@obgyn.net
- Computer use and pregnancy Jas
- could it be CANCER? nichole
- Alternatives to myoectemy for a 25- year-old newlywed with no children Anita
- lubrication for pregnancy Joshua
- Hysterectomy Tanga
- 2 Dr.s unable to perform HSG test today. Wendy
- Question on Dermoid MaryJ
- Re: Hymenectomy yolanda
- Unexplained rash/spots in pregnancy Sian
- IUD Mailing list correction Angie
- IUD Mailing list Angie
- affect of preterm labor on subsequent pregnancy. Kim
- breast sono ? BethW
- ert and side effects Lisa
- Continuous Depo Provera Kelly
- Anyone know what this is??? Angela
- Post-Hysterectomy Changes Trish
- Lengthy period Sabrina
- ovarian cyst Christine
- Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding and HRT anonymous@obgyn.net
- Our Periods, Ourselves? Lilli
- eating game while pregnant? Vivian
- Endo and IBS Penny
- Strange Bleeding-Please Help Elisabeth
- Pill weight gain won't go away!! Christine
- vaginal pain Angela
- Lack of Amnioctic fluid in 19th week Sheila
- Breast enhancement pills angela
- What is advanced decidual secration? Mik.
- VIN III Barbara
- discharge of clear fluid mid-period - cystic origin ? dana
- Progesterone Therapy & Birth Defects? Moneca
- tilted Uterus Terri
- 3-d ultrasound dena
- bladder problems with fibroids question???? Janet
- Re: WOMENS-HEALTH digest 7 anonymous@obgyn.net
- Still in pain after surgery DianeM
- Pregnant after 3 miscarriages: Carrie
- A-typical cells Sandy
- new treatment for fibroids - versapoint gabriele
- Antibiotics and yeast AMD
- Confused about the pill... Carolyn
- DERMOID Tumor/Surgery???? Lissa
- I need a Dr.s reassurance, How do I know if my pill is working??? Kathy
- Squamous Papilloma - Vaginal Infections Sue
- PCO, hypothyroid, Clomid Patti
- Vaginal Infections Chat at 8pm CDT - Join us for Chat! Mary
- Re: Help about HELLP! Jody
- HCG of 5 at 14 dpo Casey
- Numb 5 months after surgery Lisa
- Going for Laparoscopy 7-17 jessica
- stopped meds , no period?????? marie
- Fatigue, fibroids, and endo Angela
- Is this normal? Josie
- Breast biopsy Terri
- delayed menstruation and pills, HELP !! Gaye
- Estimation of gestational age AMD
- Suggestions appreciate for office form Geffrey H. Klein, MD
- Confused and concerned about the pill. How do I know if it is working???? Kathy
- bleeding placenta Amy
- Birth Control Pills for Perimenopause Charlene
- tea tree oil Yvett
- Ruptured Membranes at 20 weeks Cathy
- Orthotricyclen Kai
- Large Uterine Fibroid & Limb Movement disorders Pj
- heavy bleeding lynn
- postponing period twice in a row Kim
- irregular periods lynn
- uterine pollyps Kendall
- Thursday Chats: "Vaginal Infections" and "Miscarriage" Mary
- High Levels of Testosterone in Women Deborah
- Re: Not pregnant Kimberly Wendy
- Early ovulation & medication Jennifer
- Pain in pelvic area Barbara
- Can someone PLEASE help me??? Jean
- Abdominal Pain Judy
- TENS use during pregnancy Wendy
- Re: Depression- to Barbara JOYCE
- Strange heart pounding and pg with twins Beverly
- Newborn circumcision Jean
- Re: hormone levels Ronald Barentsen, MD
- Brown discharge Sharizad
- PAT's related to menstrual cycle Patty
- Blighted ovum/ultrasound Lora
- gyn vs family dr and preconception visit Michele
- Congratulations, Dr. Kelly!!!!!!!!!!(more) Elizabeth
- FBS Patty
- Dr.'s any ideas Bladder & Pregnancy? Jas
- cystocele Lucinda
- Cystocele Lucinda
- Not Pregnant after a year of trying... Kimberly
- Sexuality: Pre-Teen Girls Michael
- depression - went to doctor Barbara
- Please Help Me? Lisa
- Uterine fibroids & hysterectomy Laurie
- Endo pain or GI Pain? Severe Pain Mary
- Late period and hypothyroidism Toni
- Bone Loss from Lurpon Judy
- Please help Drs! Throbbing pain... Jade
- ovary cysts causing enlarged uterus Elizabeth
- Neeed some pill advice--worry or not? Trisha
- ovarian cyst 2 months after having one removed??? Ann
- Ultrasound After Hyst. for Endo. Donna
- take me off your topics list -recipient list The
- birth control jaymee
- Strange excessive thirst during pregnancy laura
- ?'s for the Dr.'s Abdominal ultrasound vs. Vaginal Jas
- my body niecy
- pap vs. colposcopy AMANDA
- Sperm/heat Tina
- Re: molar pregnancy?Please Help! Jennifer
- Re: molar pregnancy?Please Help! Jennifer
- Annual checkup Meera
- miscarriage and euthyroid multinodular goiter lisa
- Tonight's Chat Topic "Pills, Patches and Creams" Mary
- Frequent bleeding - are we on the right track? Sue
- TENS and pregnancy Wendy
- Conceiving twins after miscarrying twins Monica
- Long cycles after miscarriage (D&C) Carolyn
- Birth control pills and firbroids Jennifer
- Need Help Now! Lisa
- depression-age Barbara
- info JOYCE
- chronic urinary tract infections Eve
- hysterectomy for fibroids Janet
- depression Barbara
- Re: Yahoo! Mail Auto anonymous@obgyn.net
- D.E.S. crys
- Conjugated estrogen carol
- Switching SSRIs Kathi
- Abnormal Pap Results Jessica
- Endometriosis Teresa
- Endometriosis Teresa
- uterine bleeding between periods pam
- HSG TEST/Pregnancy Jaye
- St Johns Wort and Kava Kava Chrissy
- Re: Planned pregnancy after vasectomy William D. McIntosh, MD
- Re: Dr. Radnich, THANKS! ECC during pregnancy laura
- Re: Tamoxifen/fibroid/pap Joanne
- Happy 4th of July in the USA and a few other things Barbara
- HMG, Drug Therapy , Human menopause Dr.
- dysplasia & periods tina
- Placenta and hormone production Sue
- Pregnancy and age (second child) Meera
- lactating breasts but not pregnant nicole
- pregnancy exercises Cheryl
- MYOLYSIS CATHLEEN
- 2ND Request: Stage III Endometriosis and Fertility Robin
- ECC during pregnancy laura
- pregnancy after an ectopic pregnancy kristi
- STILL Suffering from Cervical Block with SEVERE cervical pain! Jess
- Please help...post D & C--longterm bleeding Julie
- Provera...unable to find answer please help me. Heidi
- bloating and weight gain while taking the pill Amy
- Mettelschmertz Lynn
- constipation and pregnancy Sherry
- Chemotherapy and birth defects. Bruce
- Just had a Uterine Artery embolization anonymous
- Stenotic cervix? beth
- 15 DPO Pain and headaches but no Period, is this normal with clomid? Carmen
- Sign of miscarriage? laura
- Two Chats Tonight! Dr. Kelly Shanahan and Marie Allen Mary
- Fibroids Caroline
- implantation and anti-inflamitories Karyn
- hystorectomy bladder tear Vickie
- Estrogen Replacement Susan
- External Version Update anonymous@obgyn.net
- Oesteoperosis Nid
- Hematoma- post lap-birch Anne
- Attention Dr. Shanahan or others who can help Tammy
- Re: Twin to twin transfusion syndrome (TTTS, FFTS, TOPS) Paul
- Re: twins: 1 demise at 14 wks, the other is at 20 wks and still going anonymous@obgyn.net
- Re: twins: 1 demise at 14 wks, the other is at 20 wks and still going Paul
- Re: vaginal gushing Dena
- E-mail list for uterine artery embolization Susan
- Cervical irritaiton, bleeding? laura
- Inverted Nipples Deanne
- paravaginal defect repair-- what is it? eliz
- Protrusion of wall of the uterus Nancy
- HPV JustMe
- Need immediate advice about progesterone!!! Tammy
- DeproProvera Teresa
- How does a person locate a skilled videolazeroscopist? Helen
- 12 year old Teresa
- Cramping and Spotting @ 5 weeks... Amy
- Strange question. Sheree
- ABNORMAL PERIOD LORI
- Shingles Exposure in Early Pregnancy Brienne
- Pregnancy, miscarriage, and orgasms..... Tracy
- TX laws and tubal ligation Criselda
- tubal Reversal Laura
- Re: uterine artery embolization kathryn
- Pain after electrocoagulation DianeM
- I think I was or maybe pregnant April
- Continuous Progesterone? Lisa
- Concerned over low BP etc. in pregnancy Sian
Last message date: Fri Jul 31 22:52:23 1998
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