FW: New Technique for Fetal Gender Determination
From: DuboseTerryJ@exchange.uams.edu
Thu Sep 23 10:20:18 1999
-----Original Message-----
From: kpnb [SMTP:kpnb@voyager.net] <mailto:[SMTP:kpnb@voyager.net]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: New Technique for Fetal Gender Determination
Guess what I heard on the radio this morning (approximately 6:25am)....WWJ
(950am radio in Detroit) had an interview with the Dr. who is running the
program. The interview went pretty much like the web page.....there were no
questions about whether the test was valid or legitimate, just the reporter
being awed by the wonders of modern medicine.
I looked the address and phone number up on 555-1212.com, and it didn't
return a result, which makes me wonder if the address is a private home with
an unlisted phone number, or just a new business. An ultrasound pal of mine
offered to drive to Livonia this weekend to check it out, but I'm not sure
it's worth the trouble.
I hope none of my patients heard it.....I can almost hear them now telling
me
how inaccurate ultrasound is, and they're going to send their money in for
the
more accurate urine test..... :-(
Peg B.
DuboseTerryJ@exchange.uams.edu <mailto:DuboseTerryJ@exchange.uams.edu>
wrote:
> Dr. Copel, thanks for this confirmation. Everyone I have asked
about it,
> thinks it is not valid... at all.
>
> I lodged a complaint with the Fed. Trade Comm yesterday, also.
>
> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS
> Director, Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
> CHRP, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
> Little Rock, Arkansas, USA
> 501-686-6510
> http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/>
<http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> >
> http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm
<http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm>
<http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm>
>
>
> http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
<http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm>
> <http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
<http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> >
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Copel [SMTP:joshua.copel@yale.edu]
<mailto:[SMTP:joshua.copel@yale.edu]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> Subject: Re: New Technique for Fetal Gender
Determination
>
> I am not aware of any science underlying this. The Genetic
Counselor
> list serve was trying to organize protests to the FTC. Doesn't
seem to be
> under FDA regulation. One of the genetic counselors on their
discussion list
> contacted them for specific details of methodology, results etc.
and got
> this response:
> ------------------------------
> <<Urobiologics wrote:
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> <<Mrs. Mxxxxxx,
>
> <<We are indeed obliged to have your attention on this.
>
> <<We were determined not to publish anything on this
aspect as even
> patenting does not always brings you rewards. Now, since we have
received
> many inquiries similar to this, we are planning to file a patent
application
> in few months. Because of the same reason, we would not be in a
position to
> discuss any protocol. We can however, offer you two free tests to
compare
> our performance with your results. Only mailing expense of $30.00
per case
> will have to be paid.
>
> <<The protocol has been developed by combining various
scientific
> and well published methods and the whole thing is well scientific.
Any body
> can do it. Currently, our accuracy rate is essentially 100% for
female
> reports and 90% for male ones (average 95%). The same is improving
day by
> day.
>
> <<We would like to work with you as part of the team and
you have
> every right to check our performance.
>
> <<We are sorry, we could not provide you 'to-the -point'
reply to
> your questions at this time
>
> Sincerely,
> urobiologics.com.>>
> ----------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------
> I think this is a scam, and you're right that as long as
> ----------------------------------
they don't
> claim 100% success individuals won't be able to protest. Kind of
reminds me
> of the famous sonologist who says (jokingly) in lectures that he
writes down
> the opposite sex in the chart to what he tells the parents so that
if he is
> wrong he can always bring out the patient chart & point to the
right gender
> - of course, when he told the parents the right gender they don't
come back
> to complain. (Note to all: I said he says this humorously, it is
not what he
> does! And, no, I won't tell you who it is. Maybe Roberta can offer
a prize
> to whoever guesses right.) Josh Copel
>
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