Re: TAX rate and universal health care

From: Laureano Folgar (lfolgar@vianwe.com)
Tue Mar 11 15:59:42 2008


Sure, we can do better Probably the right way is in the middle of US system and EC system. We have an important problem with waiting list, but our system is not so black as Claudia thinks a universal health care is. It is a problem of solidarity. More money you spend in others health care, who cannot afford it, less health care you get for your money. In Spain all pregnant women have the same health care opportunities, so 50% of ours deliveries are Moroccans women, because my hospital are in a town with a border with Morocco. Obviously Spanish pregnant have less than they paid because they share half of their facilities with others country. Other point of view is that for 1000 pregnant per year they have their children with a mortality rate of 10 per 1000 (our mortality rate) instead of 45 per 1000 (their mortality rate), so our hospital save 35 lifes per year just doing universal care.

L. Folgar Melilla (Spain).

Terry DuBose escribió: > I do not accept the premise that big business is better than big
> government. It will not be simple, but I do believe we can do better.
> The system of corporate insurance does not "allow competition" in the
> real sense. It simply convolutes the admonition of Hippocrates to
> "First do no harm" into "Your money or your life."
> We can do better. Terry
>
> */Claudia Benge <bengecaj@iquest.net>/* wrote:
>
> 1. Our tax rate is already at 50% (take your time and add up
> all the taxes you pay)
> 2. Universal health care to even come close to what is
> available now will add 20% to our taxes
> 3. Universal health care will cost more that we can possibly
> pay OR people will be denied healthcare based on their age
> and other health risks
> 4. Can you imagine if your child is injured in an accident and
> someone states their chance of recovery is less than 30% SO
> they are therefore denied care???
> 5. Or if your spouse is diagnosed with cancer and someone
> decides there is no chance for survival…
>
> The only way good health care can survive is to allow competition
> and quality improvement. We as sonographers need to learn all we
> can and mentor good replacements. Quality improvement can track
> what really works for the least amount of expense and saves the
> patient money.
> Health care does not need to be part of the government, it just
> needs to be available so that the everyone can be covered on a
> “pool rated” basis. Can you imagine the same people who run the
> postal service and medicare now would be capable of running
> something which is our largest national product??? I cannot.
> Claudia Benge
>




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