Re: Important PBS series in March
From: James Smeltzer (James.Smeltzer@wellstar.org)
Mon Mar 10 15:48:23 2008
Terry! LOL! Nope, Migrant and occasional laborers that buy tools and become gardeners, housekeepers who buy a wetvac and a truck and become carpet cleaners, aides who work their way thru nursing school, and become human capitalists, LPNs who take up sonography, anyone who invests in a more productive life. Why are the arm-chair capitalists who use money instead of sweat equity so much better rewarded (NO social security, NO income tax, but capital gains, instead of those who WORK: social security (regressive tax) PLUS income tax (regressive as applied to the rich) , PLUS no tax breaks on their investment in their own education. I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF A DEATH TAX OVER THIS SYSTEM.
;^)
JSS
>>> "DuBose, Terry" <DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu> 3/10/2008 12:23 PM >>>
Capitalism? Nope, we have a mixed economy that is mainly Corporatism.
Now days the only real capitalists in the USA are artists and prostitutes.
Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
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-----Original Message-----
From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Cutchin
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
Subject: Re: Important PBS series in March
Hmmmmm? I work hard all my life and accumulate wealth ( we still have
capitalism?) while the piglets still suck off the government their
entire life - and you want me to share with them when I'm dead.? Joe C
James Smeltzer wrote:
> Apparently Pres Bush thinks we can. He is ADAMANTLY OPPOSED to taxing
> dead rich people, who were too greedy and controlling to put their bread
> in a family trust....
>
> As to people's behavior and health - I have always been in favor of a
> bigger tax on the obvious tobacco and ethanol. How about a copay
> proportional to (BMI - 26) Or (Mean BP - 105) Or (Resting HR - 60) Or
> ???
>
> JSS
>
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>>>>Terry DuBose <terrydubose@sbcglobal.net> 3/9/2008 11:52 AM >>>
>
> I agree that paying for universal health care is an issue. But we
> can't take it with us, and Denmark seems to have found some answers.
> With a 50% tax rate, they are the most content people on Earth, it
> appears:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/60minutes/main3833797.shtml
>
> Peace, Terry
>
> Ellerd Family <ellerd@stx.rr.com> wrote:
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> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I understand the
> social aspects of this...the problem becomes how to pay for it. Even in
> Cuba "someone" has to pay for it. The idea of providing everyone with
> healthcare is a global concern and wonderful on its face...but then the
> reality sets in and the next question becomes...
>
> How do we fund it and keep our economy viable to help other countries
> achieve the same?
>
> I did watch the preview, however, with documentaries I never take
> them on face value. I watch and listen and then research on my own. In
> general they always tend to be slanted towards what the maker wants you
> to see. I prefer making informed judgments rather than have them fed to
> me with a spoon. There are plenty of sources lauding the wonders of NHS
> and plenty of others describing the horror stories and rationing of
> healthcare. Which to believe? That is for you to decide on your own.
>
> Now that you mention life expectancy...are we asking the question of
> whether it is due to our healthcare system or our sedentary lifestyle
> and access to cheap, easy, fat/sugar laden sources of food? Is there a
> McDonald's on every corner in Cuba? Do people have the same access to
> technology in Cuba that Americans do? Do they sit on their tookus all
> day and surf the internet and never exercise?
>
> I believe the statistics, what I am not sure of is whether the
> numbers are the result of personal lifestyles or the failure of the
> healthcare system. And if you fix one, have you really fixed the other?
> Will a tax payer funded healthcare system teach our society anything
> about personal responsibility in what we shove in our faces or how much
> we move? Will it cure the epidemic of lack of personal responsibility
> for our own health? We can point at big corporations all day long and
> say that they provide us with cigarettes, alcohol, and cheap
> sustenance....but in the end are they holding the fork/cigarette/drink
> for us? Will the tax payer funded healthcare system cure this or will it
> just treat an exponentially growing problem until it bankrupts us all?
>
> Interesting discussion by the way...discourse is always fascinating.
>
> Shelley
>
> From: DuBose, Terry
> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Important PBS series in March
>
> "Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in
> demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I think
> it should
> be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous
> or more broken."
>
> Here are the world rankings for "HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY" The USA
> is 24, below all other industrialized nations.
>
> http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html
>
> If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes
> documentaries, you heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half of
> all the health dollars paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th in
> life expectancy... below Cuba according to this.
> http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html
>
> Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different ways
> of calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the money we
> spend, we are not getting much effectiveness when compared to other
> nations.
>
> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
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