Re: Important PBS series in March
From: DuBose, Terry (DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu)
Mon Mar 10 11:05:07 2008
True. I was too limited in the response, but I think everyone gets my
point.
Thanks, Terry
Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
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From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of art
fougner, md
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
Subject: Re: Important PBS series in March
You left out the small business folk ... including physicians and
sonographers in practice.
Art
At Mon, 10 Mar 2008, DuBose, Terry wrote:
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>Capitalism? Nope, we have a mixed economy that is mainly Corporatism.
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>Now days the only real capitalists in the USA are artists and prostitutes.
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>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
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>Associate Professor & Director
>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
>4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
>501-686-6510 or 501-686-5948
>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
>http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sonography/
>http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
>http://www.io.com/~dubose/
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>From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Joe
>Cutchin
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:00 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
>Subject: Re: Important PBS series in March
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>Hmmmmm? I work hard all my life and accumulate wealth ( we still have
>capitalism?) while the piglets still suck off the government their
>entire life - and you want me to share with them when I'm dead.? Joe C
>
>James Smeltzer wrote:
>> Apparently Pres Bush thinks we can. He is ADAMANTLY OPPOSED to taxing
>> dead rich people, who were too greedy and controlling to put their bread
>> in a family trust....
>>
>> As to people's behavior and health - I have always been in favor of a
>> bigger tax on the obvious tobacco and ethanol. How about a copay
>> proportional to (BMI - 26) Or (Mean BP - 105) Or (Resting HR - 60) Or
>> ???
>>
>> JSS
>>
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>>>>>Terry DuBose <terrydubose@sbcglobal.net> 3/9/2008 11:52 AM >>>
>>
>> I agree that paying for universal health care is an issue. But we
>> can't take it with us, and Denmark seems to have found some answers.
>> With a 50% tax rate, they are the most content people on Earth, it
>> appears:
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/60minutes/main3833797.shtml
>>
>> Peace, Terry
>>
>> Ellerd Family <ellerd@stx.rr.com> wrote:
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>> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I understand the
>> social aspects of this...the problem becomes how to pay for it. Even in
>> Cuba "someone" has to pay for it. The idea of providing everyone with
>> healthcare is a global concern and wonderful on its face...but then the
>> reality sets in and the next question becomes...
>>
>> How do we fund it and keep our economy viable to help other countries
>> achieve the same?
>>
>> I did watch the preview, however, with documentaries I never take
>> them on face value. I watch and listen and then research on my own. In
>> general they always tend to be slanted towards what the maker wants you
>> to see. I prefer making informed judgments rather than have them fed to
>> me with a spoon. There are plenty of sources lauding the wonders of NHS
>> and plenty of others describing the horror stories and rationing of
>> healthcare. Which to believe? That is for you to decide on your own.
>>
>> Now that you mention life expectancy...are we asking the question of
>> whether it is due to our healthcare system or our sedentary lifestyle
>> and access to cheap, easy, fat/sugar laden sources of food? Is there a
>> McDonald's on every corner in Cuba? Do people have the same access to
>> technology in Cuba that Americans do? Do they sit on their tookus all
>> day and surf the internet and never exercise?
>>
>> I believe the statistics, what I am not sure of is whether the
>> numbers are the result of personal lifestyles or the failure of the
>> healthcare system. And if you fix one, have you really fixed the other?
>> Will a tax payer funded healthcare system teach our society anything
>> about personal responsibility in what we shove in our faces or how much
>> we move? Will it cure the epidemic of lack of personal responsibility
>> for our own health? We can point at big corporations all day long and
>> say that they provide us with cigarettes, alcohol, and cheap
>> sustenance....but in the end are they holding the fork/cigarette/drink
>> for us? Will the tax payer funded healthcare system cure this or will it
>> just treat an exponentially growing problem until it bankrupts us all?
>>
>> Interesting discussion by the way...discourse is always fascinating.
>>
>> Shelley
>>
>> From: DuBose, Terry
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:06 AM
>> Subject: RE: Important PBS series in March
>>
>> "Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in
>> demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I think
>> it should
>> be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous
>> or more broken."
>>
>> Here are the world rankings for "HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY" The USA
>> is 24, below all other industrialized nations.
>>
>> http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html
>>
>> If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes
>> documentaries, you heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half of
>> all the health dollars paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th in
>> life expectancy... below Cuba according to this.
>> http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html
>>
>> Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different ways
>> of calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the money we
>> spend, we are not getting much effectiveness when compared to other
>> nations.
>>
>> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>>
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