Re: Important PBS series in March
From: James Smeltzer (James.Smeltzer@wellstar.org)
Mon Mar 10 14:14:29 2008
Joe,
The work you did was valuable to the world and you were paid for it. I
suggest that you buy an annuity and spend it all. There are SOME piglets
somewhere that are going to get it, even if they are YOUR LITTLE
PIGLETS.
Personally I would not want my kids hanging around expecting to get it
from DOD (Except for an education). Charitable trusts can get it free.
You can set up a family trust NOW to share it with those you are kin to.
You control it ALL right now and these are all options, including
spending every last dollar in a lifetime annuity, a bet that you will
live forever, or at least a long time. The fact is that soetime you are
going to share it all with someone.
Maybe it would be nice to give those other little piglets a good
education so they can get weaned from the sow and do something useful,
so your own little piglets don't need to support them and complain about
them in the future.
I agree witchya sucking a sow's tit is NOT the right way to live as an
adult - that the government dole ain't the right answer. Certainly
sucking on the work of others is nothing I would wish on my children,
either. Our inheritance taxes don't kick in until there is plenty to go
around, and the loopholes for families are so big that the only way you
don't get much around the taxes is to hoard it all till U die. If you
think all you got is independent of the great land that grew you and
gave you that freedom and God that gave you the talents you nurtured for
the work you do, the government that paid for most of the true cost of
your education, then I feel very sorry that you feel so disconnected
from the society you live in.
Jim
>>> Joe Cutchin <forcep@intercom.net> 3/10/2008 11:58 AM >>>
Hmmmmm? I work hard all my life and accumulate wealth ( we still have
capitalism?) while the piglets still suck off the government their
entire life - and you want me to share with them when I'm dead.? Joe C
--
James Smeltzer wrote:
> Apparently Pres Bush thinks we can. He is ADAMANTLY OPPOSED to
taxing
> dead rich people, who were too greedy and controlling to put their
bread
> in a family trust....
>
> As to people's behavior and health - I have always been in favor of
a
> bigger tax on the obvious tobacco and ethanol. How about a copay
> proportional to (BMI - 26) Or (Mean BP - 105) Or (Resting HR - 60)
Or
> ???
>
> JSS
>
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>>>>Terry DuBose <terrydubose@sbcglobal.net> 3/9/2008 11:52 AM >>>
>
> I agree that paying for universal health care is an issue. But we
> can't take it with us, and Denmark seems to have found some answers.
> With a 50% tax rate, they are the most content people on Earth, it
> appears:
>
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/60minutes/main3833797.shtml
>
> Peace, Terry
>
> Ellerd Family <ellerd@stx.rr.com> wrote:
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> social aspects of this...the problem becomes how to pay for it. Even
in
> Cuba "someone" has to pay for it. The idea of providing everyone
with
> healthcare is a global concern and wonderful on its face...but then
the
> reality sets in and the next question becomes...
>
> How do we fund it and keep our economy viable to help other
countries
> achieve the same?
>
> I did watch the preview, however, with documentaries I never take
> them on face value. I watch and listen and then research on my own.
In
> general they always tend to be slanted towards what the maker wa
nts
you
> to see. I prefer making informed judgments rather than have them fed
to
> me with a spoon. There are plenty of sources lauding the wonders of
NHS
> and plenty of others describing the horror stories and rationing of
> healthcare. Which to believe? That is for you to decide on your own.
>
> Now that you mention life expectancy...are we asking the question
of
> whether it is due to our healthcare system or our sedentary
lifestyle
> and access to cheap, easy, fat/sugar laden sources of food? Is there
a
> McDonald's on every corner in Cuba? Do people have the same access
to
> technology in Cuba that Americans do? Do they sit on their tookus
all
> day and surf the internet and never exercise?
>
> I believe the statistics, what I am not sure of is whether the
> numbers are the result of personal lifestyles or the failure of the
> healthcare system. And if you fix one, have you really fixed the
other?
> Will a tax payer funded healthcare system teach our society anything
> about personal responsibility in what we shove in our faces or how
much
> we move? Will it cure the epidemic of lack of personal
responsibility
> for our own health? We can point at big corporations all day long
and
> say that they provide us with cigarettes, alcohol, and cheap
> sustenance....but in the end are they holding the
fork/cigarette/drink
> for us? Will the tax payer funded healthcare system cure this or will
it
> just treat an exponentially growing problem until it bankrupts us
all?
>
> Interesting discussion by the way...discourse is always
fascinating.
>
> Shelley
>
> From: DuBose, Terry
> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Important PBS series in March
>
> “Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in
> demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I
think
> it should
> be determined by the individual which they feel is more
advantageous
> or more broken.”
>
> Here are the world rankings for “HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY” The
USA
> is 24, below all other industrialized nations.
>
> http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html
>
> If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes
> documentaries, you heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half
of
> all the health dollars paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th in
> life expectancy… below Cuba according to this.
> http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html
>
> Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different
ways
> of calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the money
we
> spend, we are not getting much effectiveness when compared to other
> nations.
>
> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
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