Re: Important PBS series in March
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Tue Jan 29 09:35:39 2008
Here's another way of looking at life expectancy - which varies by
state. The states were mapped with the name of the country whose life
expectancy was equivalent.
Pity I can't post the graphic but here's the link -
http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/135-update-on-the-gdp-map-of-the-usa/
Art
At Tue, 29 Jan 2008, DuBose, Terry wrote:
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>"Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in demonstrating the
>disparities of the systems, and at that point I think it should
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>be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous or more
>broken."
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>Here are the world rankings for "HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY" The USA is 24,
>below all other industrialized nations.
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>http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html
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>If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes documentaries, you
>heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half of all the health dollars
>paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th in life expectancy... below Cuba
>according to this.
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>http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html
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>Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different ways of
>calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the money we spend,
>we are not getting much effectiveness when compared to other nations.
>
>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
>Associate Professor & Director
>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
>4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
>501-686-6510 or 501-686-5948
>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
>http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sonography/
>http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
>http://www.io.com/~dubose/
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>From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Ellerd
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>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:57 PM
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>Subject: Re: Important PBS series in March
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>Forgive me for not watching "Sicko", but did they show the average Cuban
>clinic? Or did they show a hospital for touristas or Cuban officials?
>And the statement below disturbs me some, very subjective in nature. Can we
>mention how superior it is in many ways also? As broken
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>as our system may be, I would prefer to pay out the nose for healthcare and
>still receive it than to have it rationed to me, or it not be
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>available to me at all due to budget constraints and tax evasion. Not
>insinuating that anyone here has used this term but, the whole term
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>"free" healthcare bothers me as well. It isn't free when you pay for it on
>the front end.
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>I'm much more inclined to support a system say where children under 18,
>seniors over age 65, and the mentally ill are provided for. Would it
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>work? Not with the present tax and welfare system. Do you think a switch to
>tax payer funded healthcare would be feasible at this point?
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>Probably not. Are you willing to give up a sizeable portion of your pay and
>benefits to fund it? Somehow I don't believe it will happen any
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>time soon.
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>Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in demonstrating the
>disparities of the systems, and at that point I think it should
>
>be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous or more
>broken. Do I have those numbers? Nope, sorry. I hope those
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>proponents of the tax payer funded healthcare system would have it...after
>all it sounds all warm and fuzzy, but I've never seen real numbers
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>put to paper that would convince me that it is all that it seems to be.
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>JMHO,
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>Shelley
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> We all know that our system is inferior in many ways to these other
>systems
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