Re: Important PBS series in March
From: Joe Cutchin (forcep@intercom.net)
Tue Jan 29 09:01:30 2008
Lets keep it short, please. Can someone tell me ONE program that the
government runs that works well? Lets not discuss "well" , you know what
I mean. Joe C
Ellerd Family wrote:
> I understand the social aspects of this...the problem becomes how to pay
> for it. Even in Cuba "someone" has to pay for it. The idea of providing
> everyone with healthcare is a global concern and wonderful on its
> face...but then the reality sets in and the next question becomes...
>
> How do we fund it and keep our economy viable to help other countries
> achieve the same?
>
> I did watch the preview, however, with documentaries I never take them
> on face value. I watch and listen and then research on my own. In
> general they always tend to be slanted towards what the maker wants you
> to see. I prefer making informed judgments rather than have them fed to
> me with a spoon. There are plenty of sources lauding the wonders of NHS
> and plenty of others describing the horror stories and rationing of
> healthcare. Which to believe? That is for you to decide on your own.
>
> Now that you mention life expectancy...are we asking the question of
> whether it is due to our healthcare system or our sedentary lifestyle
> and access to cheap, easy, fat/sugar laden sources of food? Is there a
> McDonald's on every corner in Cuba? Do people have the same access to
> technology in Cuba that Americans do? Do they sit on their tookus all
> day and surf the internet and never exercise?
>
> I believe the statistics, what I am not sure of is whether the numbers
> are the result of personal lifestyles or the failure of the healthcare
> system. And if you fix one, have you really fixed the other? Will a tax
> payer funded healthcare system teach our society anything about personal
> responsibility in what we shove in our faces or how much we move? Will
> it cure the epidemic of lack of personal responsibility for our own
> health? We can point at big corporations all day long and say that they
> provide us with cigarettes, alcohol, and cheap sustenance....but in the
> end are they holding the fork/cigarette/drink for us? Will the tax payer
> funded healthcare system cure this or will it just treat an
> exponentially growing problem until it bankrupts us all?
>
> Interesting discussion by the way...discourse is always fascinating.
>
> Shelley
>
> From: DuBose, Terry <mailto:DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> <mailto:ultrasound@mail.obgyn.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Important PBS series in March
>
> “Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in
> demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I
> think it should
>
> be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous
> or more broken.”
>
> Here are the world rankings for “HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY” The USA is
> 24, below all other industrialized nations.
>
> http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html
>
> If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes
> documentaries, you heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half
> of all the health dollars paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th
> in life expectancy… below Cuba according to this.
>
> http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html
>
> Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different ways
> of calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the
> money we spend, we are not getting much effectiveness when compared
> to other nations.
>
> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
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