Re: Important PBS series in March

From: DuBose, Terry (DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu)
Tue Jan 29 08:02:06 2008


"Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I think it should

be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous or more broken."

Here are the world rankings for "HEALTHY LIFE EXPECTANCY" The USA is 24, below all other industrialized nations.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html

If you actually watched the preview for UnNatural Causes documentaries, you heard the statistic that the USA pays nearly half of all the health dollars paid by the entire world, yet we rank 30th in life expectancy... below Cuba according to this.

http://www.unnaturalcauses.org/disclaimer.html

Why does one stat say we are 24th and the other 30th, different ways of calculation, or different time periods? Either way, for the money we spend, we are not getting much effectiveness when compared to other nations.

Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM

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--------------------------------------------------------------- From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Ellerd Family Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND Subject: Re: Important PBS series in March

Forgive me for not watching "Sicko", but did they show the average Cuban clinic? Or did they show a hospital for touristas or Cuban officials? And the statement below disturbs me some, very subjective in nature. Can we mention how superior it is in many ways also? As broken

as our system may be, I would prefer to pay out the nose for healthcare and still receive it than to have it rationed to me, or it not be

available to me at all due to budget constraints and tax evasion. Not insinuating that anyone here has used this term but, the whole term

"free" healthcare bothers me as well. It isn't free when you pay for it on the front end.

I'm much more inclined to support a system say where children under 18, seniors over age 65, and the mentally ill are provided for. Would it

work? Not with the present tax and welfare system. Do you think a switch to tax payer funded healthcare would be feasible at this point?

Probably not. Are you willing to give up a sizeable portion of your pay and benefits to fund it? Somehow I don't believe it will happen any

time soon.

Good hard numbers in this discussion would be helpful in demonstrating the disparities of the systems, and at that point I think it should

be determined by the individual which they feel is more advantageous or more broken. Do I have those numbers? Nope, sorry. I hope those

proponents of the tax payer funded healthcare system would have it...after all it sounds all warm and fuzzy, but I've never seen real numbers

put to paper that would convince me that it is all that it seems to be.

JMHO,

Shelley

We all know that our system is inferior in many ways to these other systems

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