Re: Should credentialing organizations require all accredited

From: Jean Lea Spitz (jls1@coxconnect.net)
Tue Jul 31 18:43:55 2007


Terry, I need to declare a conflict of interest because I just started working with NTQR. However, I have always been a strong advocate for sonographers’ skills and abilities. The issue here is first trimester risk assessment. Patient care needs to be foremost in any discussion. In these circumstances adequate patient care is achieved by a partnership of minimally a sonographer and a sonologist and perhaps others including genetic counselors, MFM’s, etc. The referring and supervising physicians have the responsibility for the counseling and assessment process. That includes supervising the sonographer, validating the measurement, counseling the patient, and referring for additional testing as needed. Sonographers are best served by working with physicians who can be a “second eye” in validating or obtaining the images, who will recognize the criteria and importance of sonographic skill, and who can counsel patients before and after the measurement, or when the results come in. I think most sonographers want that level of supervision and partnership. Legally the medical practice regulations that are associated with the nuchal translucency CPR code require that level of supervision. Credentialing for physicians who want to participate in first trimester risk assessment is a good thing. It is physicians asking for accountability from physicians who participate in first trimester assessment. We have fought together for sonographer credentialing and I for one respect physician credentialing for first trimester assessment as well. The position of the NTQR and my position as well is that every patient deserves a credentialed sonographer / sonologist team providing optimum patient care. The issue of access which is discussed in the FMF newsletter was addressed in the ACOG statement issued in January. There are alternatives methods of risk assessment that do not require nuchal translucency and these can be used when credentialed sonographers and sonologists are not available. The state of California Genetic Disease Branch is one group that supports alternative strategies in addition to the nuchal translucency. Risk assessment is a complicated process and the team approach works best for patients. That is what NTQR advocates. Jean Lea Spitz

At Mon, 30 Jul 2007, DuBose, Terry wrote: >
>Finally, the reality of sonography in the USA is acknowledged... in Great
>Britain at least. Now if only the ACR, ACOG, AIUM, et al would wake up and
>get on board... IMHO.
>
>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
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>Associate Professor & Director
>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
>4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
>501-686-6510 or 501-686-5948
>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
>http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sonography/
>http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
>http://www.io.com/~dubose/
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>FETAL MEDICINE FOUNDATION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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>July 2007: Volume 3 Issue 2, p. 4
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>Should credentialing organizations require all accredited sonographers be
>supervised by physicians who are accredited as well?
>
>N. Greene MPH RDMS RDCS, J. Sonek MD RDMS, A. Nadel MD
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>The Fetal Medicine Foundation and Fetal Medicine Foundation USA concur that
>appropriately
>in
>all trimesters. In the case of specialized evaluations such as the nuchal
>translucency measurement, nasal bone evaluation, tricuspid valve and ductus
>venosus Doppler, and fronto-maxillary facial angles, standardized views and
>additional training with ongoing quality assurance are imperative. We are of
>the opinion that the interpreting physicians should be aware of the
>requirements for such views. However, it is also our opinion that requiring
>the interpreting physicians to have the same skills as the sonographers to
>United
>States, physicians commonly depend to a large extent on the skill of the
>but
>to maternal-fetal subspecialists and radiologists as well. This situation is
>the
>sonographers, to be accredited in the specific situation of nuchal
>translucency measurement would lead to significant limitation of access of
>American women to nuchal translucency screening. At this point in time, the
>the
>nuchal translucency measurement, (as well as the nasal bone and tricuspid
>flow assessment) is properly trained and that he or she participates in
>ongoing quality assurance. It is our belief that it is better to offer
>standardized screening (accreditation of the sonographer OR the sonologist)
>to a much larger number of women than it is to insist on restrictive
>screening strategies (accreditation of the sonographer AND the sonologist)
>which reach a much smaller number of women. (Emphasis added)
>
>df
>
>message.

--
  Jean Lea Spitz, MPH, RDMS



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