Re: Clinical Verification on ARDMS exam form

From: Terry J DuBose (TerryDuBose@sbcglobal.net)
Sun Jul 8 11:47:36 2007


I think you make good points. Our formal program uses Web based clinical records, time sheets, and case logs... all with password encryption. I also agree that, "I am not sure that it is the best model." But as a good friend, George Ellis of Cape Town, told me, "Examinations are not the best way to determine if students are learning, but many won't read if you don't test."

Over the years we have had to add more rigor to the rules because a few want to fudge the limits of our program's requirements. When it comes to passing a national professional examination in order to get employment, then the limits have to be well defined because there are those who don't care about the means as much as the end job.

That is what I think... Terry

At Sun, 08 Jul 2007, James Smeltzer wrote: >
>The requirement does leave open the possibility of a formal training program in a hospital or clinical setting, which is what we have done. This works if the specification of the core curriculum and the documentation of hours spent is planned, agreed to and documented, these would be the critical elements to satisfy the requirement for a formal program.
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>It also leaves open the pathway to certification of sonographers who have gone through non-approved programs if they can find employment in sonography.
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>Obviously, the route which is becoming "standard" is through standard experiences at approved programs, which is good.
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>Except the only problem with the emphasis on CME and formal training is that it puts the locus of responsibility for currency of practice and skills on someone other than the sonographer (CME instructors, formal program instructors). This may be more efficient and more uniform. I am not sure that it is the best model.
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>What do you think?
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>JSS
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