Re: ULTRASOUND digest 2569

From: Prakie Persad (prakie@tstt.net.tt)
Mon May 8 21:25:40 2006


I find this a little bit (to say the least) far-fetched.

Dr. PS Persad OBGYN, Trinidad

On 5/8/06 11:34 AM, "ultrasound@obgyn.net" <ultrasound@obgyn.net> wrote:

> ULTRASOUND Digest 2569
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) RE: Sonography Fetal crying
> by "DuBose, Terry" <DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu>
>
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> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:30:29 -0500
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> From: "DuBose, Terry" <DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu>
> To: "Betty" <bhamilt@hughes.net>,
> "Terry DSL1 DuBose" <terrydubose@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: Sonography Fetal crying
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> Betty, I had not seen this. It is very interesting, but there is one
> contradiction. In the text below the video window is this:
>
> Baby Cries in Womb
>
> This video may be preceded by a short advertisement.
>
> When sound was played through the uterine wall of this fetus' mother,
> the fetus startled and turned the head.
>
> Then the fetus showed all the characteristics of crying: an open mouth,
> increasing head tilts, a quivering chin and several irregular breaths
> before exhaling and settling with a turn of the head, mouthing and
> swallowing.
>
> This may lead one to believe that the fetus may be crying in response to
> the sonographic (ultrasonic) energy applied. However, on listening to
> the audio on the video, it says after the "vibro-acoustic stimulus" is
> applied. The vibro-acoustic stimulus has been known to elicit a
> "blink-startle fetal response, but is not ultrasound. It is a loud
> noise maker in the range of human hearing.
>
> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html
>
> Fetus crying in the womb (video)
> <http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html>
>
> Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
> Associate Professor & Director
> Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
> University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
> 4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
> Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
> 501-686-6510
> DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
> http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sonography/
> http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
> http://www.io.com/~dubose/
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> From: Betty [mailto:bhamilt@hughes.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Terry DSL1 DuBose
> Cc: DuBose, Terry
> Subject: Fw: Sonography Fetal crying
>
> You may have already seen this.
>
> There is a short commercial preceding the video -- it is technically a
> very good sono video.
>
> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html
>
> Fetus crying in the womb (video)
> <http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html>
>
> ?submitted by plombard <http://digg.com/users/plombard> 5 hours 59
> minutes ago (via http://dsc.discovery.com/news/...
> <http://dsc.discovery.com/news/...> )
>
> Amazing research out of the Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, N.C.
> Babies were "startled" with an audio tone played through speakers
> directed into the stomach of pregnant women, and babies' responses were
> monitored via ultrasound. The authors maintain that fetal crying may
> occur as early as 28 weeks!
>
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=teal face=Arial><span > style='font-size:
> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>Betty, I had not seen this. It is very
> interesting, but there is one contradiction. &nbsp;In the text below the > video
> window is this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=teal face=Arial><span > style='font-size:
> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal > style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
> 12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Baby Cries in > Womb</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><i><font size=3
> face="Times New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>This
> video may be preceded by a short advertisement.</span></font></i> > <o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'>When sound was played through the uterine wall o> f> this
> fetus' mother, the fetus startled and turned the head. > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'>Then the fetus showed all the characteristics of
> crying: an open mouth, increasing head tilts, a quivering chin and several
> irregular breaths before exhaling and settling with a turn of the head,
> mouthing and swallowing. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=teal face=Arial><span > style='font-size:
> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>This may lead one to believe that the
> fetus may be crying in response to the sonographic (ultrasonic) energy > applied.
> &nbsp;However, on listening to the audio on the video, it says after the > “vibro-acoustic
> stimulus” is applied. &nbsp;The vibro-acoustic stimulus has been know> n> to
> elicit a “blink-startle fetal response, but is not ultrasound.&nbsp; > It
> is a loud noise maker in the range of human hearing. > &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=teal face=Arial><span > style='font-size:
> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
> href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html">http://d> sc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></fo> nt></p>
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> style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
> href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html"><span
> class=apple-style-span><font size=6><span > style='font-size:21.0pt'>Fetus crying
> in the womb (video)</span></font></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=teal face=Arial><span > style='font-size:
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> <p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=teal face="Times> > New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;color:teal'>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, > FAIUM<br>
> <br>
> Associate Professor & Director<br>
> Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>> > of <st1:PlaceName
> w:st="on">Arkansas</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> for Medical Sciences, > CHRP<br>
> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">4301 West Markham > St.</st1:address></st1:Street>
> Mail Slot #563<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Little Rock</st1:City>, > <st1:State
> w:st="on">Arkansas</st1:State>, <st1:PostalCode > w:st="on">72205</st1:PostalCode>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>
> 501-686-6510<br>
> DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu<br>
> <a > href="http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sonography/">http://www.uams.edu/chrp/sono> graphy/</a><br>
> <a > href="http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm">http://www.obgyn.net/us/pa> nel/panel.htm</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.io.com/~dubose/">http://www.io.com/~dubose/</a><br>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------</span></fon> t><o:p></o:p></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 > face=Tahoma><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span>> </font></b><font
> size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>> > Betty
> [mailto:bhamilt@hughes.net] <br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 08, 2006 > 10:20
> AM<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Terry DSL1 DuBose<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> DuBose, Terry<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Fw: Sonography Fetal
> crying</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> </div>
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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> <div>
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'>You may have already seen > this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
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> <div>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'>There is a short commercial preceding the video > -- it
> is technically a very good sono video.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
> href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html">http://d> sc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></fo> nt></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
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> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Time> s> New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
> href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/media/fetalcryingvideo.html"><span
> class=apple-style-span><font size=6><span > style='font-size:21.0pt'>Fetus crying
> in the womb (video)</span></font></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
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> style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
> <img border=0 width height id="_x0000_i1025"
> src="cid:image001.jpg@01C6728A.1205C860"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;
> margin-left:.5in;line-height:17.25pt'><span class=apple-style-span><font
> size=3 color="#666666" face="Times New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt;
> color:#666666'>?submitted by </span></font></span><a
> href="http://digg.com/users/plombard"><span > class=apple-style-span>plombard</span></a><span
> class=apple-style-span><font color="#666666"><span > style='color:#666666'> 5
> hours 59 minutes ago (</span></font></span><a
> href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/..."><span > class=apple-style-span>via
> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/...</span></a><span > class=apple-style-span><font
> color="#666666"><span > style='color:#666666'>)</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.75pt;
> margin-left:.5in;line-height:20.25pt'><span class=apple-style-span><font
> size=3 color="#333333" face="Times New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt;
> color:#333333'>Amazing research out of the Carolinas Medical Center in
> Charlotte, N.C. Babies were &quot;startled&quot; with an audio tone played
> through speakers directed into the stomach of pregnant women, and babies'
> responses were monitored via ultrasound. The authors maintain that fetal > crying
> may occur as early as 28 weeks!</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.75pt;
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