Re: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
From: Tom (tak@direcway.com)
Tue Dec 6 18:02:59 2005
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Mr. DuBose,
Have Tom Cruise buy himself a CT scanner or MRI and see what happens when he carries a screwdriver with him to the MRI.
Thomas
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From: DuBose, Terry
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
I agree that, in Cruise's case, there is no real harm done. assuming the fetus is normal and needs no further care.
However, the impression this gives to the public is that sonography is simple and ANYONE can do it effectively; and there is no need for any education beyond reading the users' manual.
It also sets a precedent for ignoring the FDA and the medical rules/regulations that have good reasoning behind them.
Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
Associate Professor & Director
Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
501-686-6510
DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
http://www.io.com/~dubose/
http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp
http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
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From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Dave Berck
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
Subject: Re: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
Newsflash -- the rich get better (and / or more) medical care than the rest of us. If Mr. Scientology is doing is own scans in lieu of proper scans, then there's no helping him anyway. Otherwise, no harm done IMHO. Genuine concerns about fetal damage from diagnostic soundwaves are a total absurdity. I can't believe anyone who does ultrasound for a living seriously believes this. There's much more harm done by ACR representatives voicing such ridiculous concerns, thereby possibly deterring patients from getting needed scans. Personally, I'm more worried about celebrities buying their way up the transplant list.
Marveen Craig <Cramar25@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks Terry for the heads up! Just in from Australia, but I've already
responded to MSNBC's "Maternity Madness Mailbag"
option at the end of the article. I hope MSNBC is inundated by
responses from the entire sonography community.
Cruise's actions set a bad example/precedence for those with the
finances to afford their own in-home ultrasound units. Forget the FDA,
if/when they get around to investigating this, the baby will be
eligible for pre-school.
Can't help wondering where the Cruise/Holmes obstetrician is in all of
this? Hopefully, he/she is guiding and advising this
couple appropriately.
Let's hope Mr. Cruise turns that transducer over to a competent
registered sonographer or physician/sonologist very soon.
Marveen Craig
Tucson, Arizona
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DuBose, Terry wrote:
>One of my students found this article... it has a survey for your
>opinion on this subject.
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>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10309963/
>
David J. Berck, MD, MPH
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. DuBose,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have Tom Cruise buy himself a CT scanner or MRI and
see what happens when he carries a screwdriver with him to the MRI.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thomas</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu href="mailto:DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu">DuBose,
Terry</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net
href="mailto:ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list
ULTRASOUND</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:31
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tom Cruise Ultrasound
Maven</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I agree that, in
Cruises case, there is no real harm done
assuming the fetus is normal and
needs no further care.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However, the
impression this gives to the public is that sonography is simple and ANYONE
can do it effectively; and there is no need for any education beyond reading
the users manual. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It also sets a
precedent for ignoring the FDA and the medical rules/regulations that have
good reasoning behind them. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=teal size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Arial Black" color=teal size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Black?;color:teal? Arial>Terry J.
DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Arial Black"
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Black?;color:teal? Arial> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial Black" color=teal size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Black?;color:teal? Arial>Associate
Professor & Director <BR>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
<BR>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP <BR>4301 West Markham
St. Mail Slot #563 <BR>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA <BR>501-686-6510
<BR>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu <BR><A
href="http://www.io.com/~dubose/">http://www.io.com/~dubose/</A> <BR><A
href="http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp">http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp</A>
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ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] <B><SPAN
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Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Newsflash -- the rich get better (and /
or more) medical care than the rest of us. If Mr. Scientology is doing is own
scans in lieu of proper scans, then there's no helping him anyway. Otherwise,
no harm done IMHO. Genuine concerns about fetal damage from diagnostic
soundwaves are a total absurdity. I can't believe anyone who does ultrasound
for a living seriously believes this. There's much more harm done by ACR
representatives voicing such ridiculous concerns, thereby possibly deterring
patients from getting needed scans. Personally, I'm more worried about
celebrities buying their way up the transplant list. <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Marveen Craig
<Cramar25@earthlink.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote:
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks Terry for
the heads up! Just in from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>, but I've already
<BR>responded to MSNBC's "Maternity Madness Mailbag"<BR>option at the end of
the article. I hope MSNBC is inundated by <BR>responses from the entire
sonography community.<BR><BR>Cruise's actions set a bad example/precedence for
those with the <BR>finances to afford their own in-home ultrasound units.
Forget the FDA,<BR>if/when they get around to investigating this, the baby
will be <BR>eligible for pre-school.<BR><BR>Can't help wondering where the
Cruise/Holmes obstetrician is in all of <BR>this? Hopefully, he/she is guiding
and advising this<BR>couple appropriately.<BR><BR>Let's hope Mr. Cruise turns
that transducer over to a competent <BR>registered sonographer or
physician/sonologist very soon.<BR><BR>Marveen Craig<BR><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Tucson</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Arizona</st1:State></st1:place><BR><BR>=========
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==========<BR><BR><BR>DuBose,
Terry wrote:<BR><BR>>One of my students found this article... it has a
survey for your<BR>>opinion on this subject.
<BR>><BR>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10309963/<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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MPH<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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