Re: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
From: doctorjoe@aol.com
Mon Dec 5 09:30:02 2005
Evidence for that? I didn't know that was the only way.
Joe P.
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From: Dave Berck <djberck@yahoo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND <ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net>
Sent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:19:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
Yeah, as long as that sex education includes information about birth control options, not just abstinence, not to mention access to those options. The only proven way to decrease the abortion rate is to increase the contraception rate.
James Smeltzer <James.Smeltzer@wellstar.org> wrote:
I heartily agree with that statement. I also believe that we should be
socially proactive in providing sex education in our schools. This has
been proven to decrease the unexpected teen pregnancy rate everywhere it
has been tried. Some people in this country are opposed to this and
opposed to abortion as well. This harkens back to the scarlet letter
days, IMHO.
Jim S
>>> orlandoultrasound@hotmail.com 12/2/2005 1:51:08 PM >>>
Just to throw a comment on the women's (pro) choice of what happens toher body, shouldn't the choice be made at the time of intercourse rather
than after the "oops" pregnancy occurs. If I were to say walk along a
dangerous cliff, aren't I taking a similar risk of something happening
to my body. Life is all about choices and outcomes huh! Maybe the Pro in
the "Pro choice" should take a new meaning into "Proactive" to keep from
getting pregnant if that isn't the situation you want to be in.
Kevin
Kevin Snider RDMS,RDCS,RVT Chad Hall RDMS, RDCS, RVT Orlando Ultrasound
Associates, Inc.Diagnostics - Consulting- EducationOffice:
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381-2502http://www.orlandoultrasound.com From: "James Smeltzer"
Reply-To: ultrasound@obgyn.net
To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
Subject: Re: Tom Cruise Ultrasound Maven
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:00:07 -0600
>Guys, this is America, not AMERIKA! If he needs ! help with his machine
-
>and he should get a good professional to help him look at this baby -
I
>would volunteer to do this, if he would play with my kids, and sign a
>few autographs.
>
>As a sonologist, perinatologist and American, I believe that the
proven
>beneficial effects on parent-infant bonding justify the theoretical
>risks of diagnostic ultrasound. My main objections to "botique"
>sonograms are that they discriminate against the poor, they do not
>provide the usual quality assurance measures, and they do not address
>legitimate medical needs that are satisfied by quality sonography.
>
>We tape on request for that reason. We also provide keepsake photos.
In
>these days of chaotic fragmented lives, the most important
determinate
>of good child outcomes (ALL of our main objective) is a persistant
>unconditional positive parent child relationship. This STARTS with a
>! firm positive parent-infant bond. This can start with a quality
>sonogram, IMHO. If you do not realize that this is part of your
mission,
>you are in the wrong line of work.
>
>Part of the reason that the "botique" sonogram business exists is
that
>WE ARE NOT CONSISTENTLY DOING OUR JOB in this regard. Tom Cruise
shows
>us this & rather than accepting our lesson with love and humility, we
>jump his ass. We are a bunch of pompous idiots!
>
>One of the best things I ever did in my career was to train a nurse
and
>minister's wife who has turned around and is training people
nationally
>from crisis pregnancy centers on the use of sonography in their work.
I
>am pro choice in believing a woman should have choice of what happens
to
>her body, but I am definitely pro life in my personal action, and in
>believing that it is legitimate use of ultrasound to show a woman the
>t! ruth about the child she is carrying.
>
>If I had Tom Cruise's money, I would find someone with knowledge to
>guide me and do what he did. I would also get a pro job a couple of
>times during the pregnancy.
>
>Please forgive the rant, but our forefathers died that we should be
>free. The only justifiable defense of the removal of any freedom is
an
>overriding public good that necessarily conflicts with our inherent
>private rights - child immunizations and traffic laws for example. I
do
>not see this being the case regarding sonography.
>
>GO TOM!
>
>James S. Smeltzer, MD, FACOG, SMFM
>Consultant, Maternal Fetal Medicine
>Wellstar Physicians' Group
>Northwest Women's Care
>787 Campbell Hill St
>Marietta GA 30060
>James.Smeltzer@wellstar.org
>VM 678-290-3035
>Off 770-528-0260
>Page 404-318-3451
>
! > >>> evsono@pipeline.com 12/1/2005 11:35:45 AM >>>
>Tom Cruise is performing sonograms. No report on his fees or where he
>obtained the machine. The FDA should be interested since this flies
>in
>the face of an FDA directive.
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20051130/en_celeb_eo/17872;_ylt=AqS4TXlKqErI73ZoxBa35CZV.nQA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
>
>--
>art fougner, md
>
>"I knew I was going to take the wrong train, so I left early."
>Lawrence Peter Berra
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