Re: Joe-- Ob/Gyn US practice in Asian countries
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Tue Jun 14 07:49:30 2005
When Barbara Walters commented negatively on Breast Feeding in public on
"The View", she stirred up more than the milk of human kindness...
art
At Mon, 13 Jun 2005, DuBose, Terry wrote:
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>Agree, I all ways have a chaperone for endovaginal.
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>As to the public breast feeding... that is really surprising... only in
>America would a natural thing be considered something to hide?
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>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
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>Associate Professor & Director
>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
>4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
>501-686-6510
>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
>http://www.io.com/~dubose/
>http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp
>http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
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>Terry,
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>In the news the other day a Starbuck's asked a woman to breast feed her
>baby in the lavatory because other customers were annoyed by it. She
>suggested they take their latte to the lav instead.
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>I recently ran into a patient - running 3 rooms, behind because of an
>anomaly, sonographer out & doing all my own work as well - who was
>middle aged and had a terrible experience because I had to do a perineal
>for a Bartholin's gland problem the sonographer did not know how to
>evaluate.
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>She complained bitterly to her husband afterward some things that were
>not true - unchaperoned etc. - mostly because she was freaked by
>evaluation by a man - 1st in her life. She had a look of fear and I
>thought it was cancer phobia but did not say anything. I should have
>paid attention, said "you look like you are afraid,"& asked why, but I
>did not.
>
>If you are careful, respectful and explain you can usually examine
>almost anyone, but you need to take the time & it is VERY important to
>do so (Also ALWAYS have a chaperone if male). I regret that I did not
>for this one.
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>Jim S
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>>>> DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu 6/9/2005 9:36:09 AM >>>
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>As a non-physician sonographer, I should jump in here with another
>point-of-view. I agree the issue is primarily one of culture.
>
>Before going into sonographic education full-time, I was in clinical
>practice with a group of radiologist for 22 years. When we first
>started endovaginal sonography in the mid 1980s, the main question
>about
>the insertion of the transducer. I always gave the woman the option
>of
>inserting it herself on the basis that if there was pain she would
>have
>better control of the process.
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>Back in those days we still saw a few older women who did not want to
>insert "anything there" themselves. These were women who had past
>menopause before the advent of tampons. The only women, that I
>recall,
>who did not want me doing the exam (I am male) were on religious
>grounds, a few women from the USA and the Middle-East.
>
>>From my observation of our students, and with the rise of more
>fundamentalist religious conservatives in the USA, there appears to be
>more resistance to male sonographers performing sonographic exams on
>women. This includes breast exams as well as endovaginal, I do not
>recall this resistance being so widespread 20 years ago. The same
>resistance does not arise in the case of women doing scrotal exams on
>men. At our local Veteran's Administration Hospital, there are only
>female sonographers in the radiology department and they do many (all)
>testicular as well as endorectal prostate examinations.
>
>In the USA today, approximately 85% of all sonographers are women, and
>the number of males seems to be continuing to decline.
>
>Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
>
>Associate Professor & Director
>Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP
>4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
>501-686-6510
>DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
>http://www.io.com/~dubose/
>http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp
>http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
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art fougner, md
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