Re: early fetal cardiac eco
From: Dott. Andrea Corda (acord@tin.it)
Thu Oct 21 15:39:36 2004
I agree,mine are the same-I have a presentation (powerpoint) about this in
italian with a few videoclips.
If you want,I can send it
A.Corda
>----- Original Message -----
From: "laure" <lfolgar@vianwe.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND" <ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: early fetal cardiac eco
> My statistics in 197 12-13 weeks scan are 84.45% of four chambers views.
> Outflow tracts were not controled but in most of cefalics, hearts up
> normally is located. In my experience the importance of the nuchal
> translucency and the great diference of view after 12 weeks do not
> recomended wait untill 13-14 weeks to see the heart.
>
> L. folgar
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] En nombre de art
> fougner, md
> Enviado el: Miércoles, 20 de Octubre de 2004 05:14 p.m.
> Para: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> Asunto: Re: early fetal cardiac eco
>
> i'm also interested in this area of investigation ... seeing many folks
> with diabetes here ...
>
> art
>
> At Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Allen Worrall wrote:
> >
> >I am anxious to see that video. I do lots of transvaginal scans at
> >around 12 weeks for nuchal translucency, and it is amazing how well one
>
> >can see the fetal heart sometimes. In some cases (certainly not all) I
> >feel I can see the four chamber view and the outflow tracts, and can
> >confirm with color that the blood is flowing in the expected
> >directions. When I report on a 12 week scan that the four chamber view
> >and the outflow tracts are normal in appearance, I suspect anyone
> >reading the report (and sometimes I wonder if anyone does read the
> >reports) would think I am joking.
> >
> >Allen
> >
>> >>----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Terry J DuBose" <tjdubose@juno.com>
> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND" <ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:39 AM
> >Subject: Re: early fetal cardiac eco
> >
> >> Wolfgang, I did get the three video clips and forwarded them to
> OBGYN.net
> >> for formatting for the EAB. I have not heard back from them yet...
> I
> >> will check from the office today to see what the status is. thanks,
> >> Terry
> >>
> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:59:59 -0500 wolfgang.moroder@tin.it (Wolfgang
> >> Moroder, M.D.) writes:
> >>> Dear Terry
> >>> I have tried to send you an e-mail but it seems that the anti spam
> >>> devices don't allow it to go through.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to post as an informal case three videoclips for a total of
> >>> about 5 MB.
> >>>
> >>> The first color Doppler videclip shows the fetal heart at 12 weeks
> >>> and that looks normal as far as it can be investigated at this
> >>> stage. The second and third clips are of a chromosomically normal
> >>> fetus at 14
> >>> and 16 weeks. There is clear evidence already at 14 weeks of an
> >>> unbalanced AV canal with a single common atrioventricular valve
> >>> orifice.
> >>> The first frames of the clip show a fairly normal three vessel
> >>> view.
> >>> There seems to be an evolution towards a more severely
> >>> disproportion
> >>> between the two ventricles and a single ventricle heart looking at
> >>> the
> >>> 16 weeks clip. The unbalanced form of AV canal is more common in
> >>> chromosomically normal fetuses. The pregnancy is still ongoing and
> >>> the
> >>> patient is waiting for a more conclusive scan and councelling at 20
> >>> weeks.
> >>>
> >>> For better viewing of the clips I suggest to load them from
> >>> Quicktime. To my knowledge Quicktime compared to Mediaplayer has the
>
> >>> advantage to
> >>> allow a frame to frame vision of the videoclips using the right and
> >>> left
> >>> arrow on the computer's keeboard. The spacebar can be used as a
> >>> stop
> >>> and play command while control-L is a shortcut to make the clip
> >>> loop.
> >>> Analising color Doppler videoclips by a frame to frame method is
> >>> almost
> >>> essential because shifts in colors are very quick and can't be
> >>> observed
> >>> easyly even by a trained eye.
> >>>
> >>> If you consider this material interesting for publishing as a
> >>> informal case I'd be very happy to send it. Please let me know how
> >>> I can upload
> >>> it to the OBGYN.NET server.
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Wolfgang
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Wolfgang Moroder, MD
> >>> Prenatal Unit
> >>> Bolzano General Hospital Italy
> >>>
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> ich bin ein New Yorker
>
