ULTRASOUND Messages for September, 2004: Re: The fight is being lost...

Re: The fight is being lost...

From: Dave Berck

djberck@yahoo.com

Fri Sep 24 08:46:47 2004

1) it's bad for the baby.

But Does anyone really think that this is true? Is there any ultrasound professional who uses any genuine restraint in indications for ultrasound in order to abide by ALARA principles? If not, it's time to get off the high horse. I don't think the prohibition analogy holds here -- diagnostic u/s isn't bad for babies.

2) the techs won't know what to do with an anomaly (e.g. cleft lip or anencephaly).

But Does anyone familiar with the quality of ultrasound in the US (i.e. low) think that the overall quality of fetal fotos could possible be worse than what general ob/gyns generate in their offices? Who's done a worse job -- the radiologist who misses anencephaly at 20 weeks, or the fetal foto tech who misses it at 30 weeks?

This just doesn't seem like such a big deal when most ultrasound in the US is being done by jokers who wouldn't know a nuchal fold from a fig newton.

-- Dave Berck, MD, MPH, RDMS

> I am afraid it is going to be like Prohibition:
> there are some things that the people want and you
> can pass all the laws you want, but it will not stop
> even law-abiding folks from doing whatever it is
> (drinking alcohol or having prenatal sonos.).
>
> Of course it could be greatly reduced, by
> considering it something as bad as dealing drugs, or
> a similar really bad thing. Then you would have
> underground ultrasound "speakeasies". Probably no
> one on this forum is old enough to know what I am
> talking about.
>
> Allen

>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Wolfgang Moroder
> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: The fight is being lost...
>
> Thanks Terry, well the war ... drags on!
> Wolfgang
>
> Am 23/set/04 um 21:05 schrieb DuBose, Terry:
>
> > Wolfgang... no, but it helps. Basically, in
> the USA there are folks,
> > some untrained in medicine, who are opening
> "Fetal Studios" and
> > charging
> > large fees to provide the parents with pictures
> and videos. This is
> > without any medical indication or diagnosis.
> >
> > There are at least two sides, probably many
> more, and a lot of
> > disagreement in what should be done.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM
> >
> > Associate Professor & Director
> > Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program
> > University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences,
> CHRP
> > 4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563
> > Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA
> > 501-686-6510
> > DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu
> > http://www.io.com/~dubose/
> > http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp
> > http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm
> >
>
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-- --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ultrasound@obgyn.net > [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of > > Dr. Wolfgang Moroder > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:00 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND > > Subject: Re: The fight is being lost... > > > > Do I have to be a registered user of NYT to > understand what this is all > > about? > > Best regards > > > > Wolfgang > > > > Am 23/set/04 um 16:20 schrieb Philippe Jeanty, > MD, PhD: > > > >> >

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/technology/circuits/23ultr.html?th > > >

===== David J. Berck, MD, MPH

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