Re: Computerized Reporting Packages

From: Wolfgang Moroder, M.D. (wolfgang.moroder@tin.it)
Mon Oct 27 10:30:59 2003


Hi,I am back to work. As promised, I checked your biometric data in my system (PIA by Viewpoint). For a EDD on 10/29 GA is 39+2 wks on 10/24 (obviously). According to our reference curves by Snijider (Nicolaides group) BPD, CC, AC and FL were in the 45th, 45th, 25th and 40th percentile respectively. EFW calculated with Hadlock's formula (BPD, CC, AC, FL) was with 2961 grams at the 25h percentile according to Yudkins reference curve for 39+2 wks. The system gives you also the possibility to calculate EFW by an othe Hadlock's formula (FL,AC) resulting in 2891 grams and with Warsow's formula (BPD,AC) 2969 grams. As you see all quite consistent. Tedious numbers but it helps sometimes to redo all those calculations. Best regards Wolfgang

At Mon, 27 Oct 2003, art fougner, md wrote: >
>Rich
>
>something is wrong with either the software or the interpretation.
>according to Hadlock "Radiology" 181:129 - 133, 1991 article entitled
>"In utero analysis of fetal growth: A sonographic weight standard," an
>EFW of 2900 gm would be in approximately the 12th percentile for a
>gestational age of 39 wks. His table is similar to Williams California
>birth weight table published in the 80's.
>
>art
>
>At Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Rich Dempsey RDMS/RVT wrote:
>>
>>Hi Art:
>>
>>Both the ultrasound unit and OB/Win program are set for Hadlock et al,
>>growth charts.
>>
>>And, internally within our department, we only use the US calculated GA
>>to set an estimated due date when a prior study, done in this
>>department, is available from 6-12 weeks. The OB's sometimes choose a
>>different date, but for our reporting it is always based on the very
>>early US estimated GA. All of the off-sites use the same equipment and
>>same OB/Win database, and we do not "round-off" the raw data prior to
>>entry.
>>
>>I apologise for not asking my original question with all the info on
>>hand. For simplicity sake, I with-held the fact that this baby had a
>>documented SUA, a grade 3 placenta, and a BPP of 4/8 (no breathing, no
>>limb movement or flex/ext)over 45 minutes.
>>
>>Mostly I was concerned about the disparity between the software programs
>>(machine vs reporting software.)
>>
>>At Sat, 25 Oct 2003, art fougner, md wrote:
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>two points - first, was this percentile assigned based on the ultrasound
>>>measured age ( which it appears to be at first read) or the true
>>>gestational age? second, what is the database used to generate the
>>>percentiles?
>>>
>>>art
>>>
>--
>art fougner, md
>ich bin ein New Yorker
>

--
Wolfgang Moroder, MD
Prenatal Unit
Bolzano General Hospital  Italy



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