Re: Objectionable mailings

From: Allen Worrall (jworrall@alaska.net)
Thu Apr 24 09:39:02 2003


MessageThe problem of SPAM is becoming much worse over the entire internet. The perpetrators have learned how to make their spam appear to come from legitimate addresses such as obgyn.net, yahoo.com, msn.com. This makes it difficult for Spam filters to work: although I could tell my filter to "kill" all mail from obgyn.net, msn.com, yahoo.com, I would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. And the spamers can change the overall address with each mailing. For example, if I filter on 12345@yahoo.com my filter will stop all mail with that address. But the next mailing from the perp will be from 22345@yahoo.com, and my filter will let it through. I then create a new filter for 22345@yahoo.com, but the perps will continue to use a different address. The spam filter helps, but recently I have noted more and more spam gets through the filter.

So I agree that the answer is not each person trying to filter the mail they receive. We have to have a more fundamental approach, which means government most likely.

Allen

Joseph A Worrall MD RDMS OB/GYN Ultrasound at the Fairbanks Clinic Fairbanks, Alaska, USA jworrall@alaska.net http://www.obgynsono.com

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From: Terry J DuBose To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Objectionable mailings

Dear Sue, I am probably as good as any to ask about this... me and the folks in Austin... Bruce, Roberta, et al. This issue first came up soon after OBGYN-L went on the web. Unfortunately, as you say "Whoever sends them is getting sneakier so it's difficult to filter them out with software rules". Bruce and crew try to filter them, but they are overwhelming.

The problem is not unique to OBGYN.net, but exists on any large, successful, OPEN ACCESS, list. We discussed going behind a wall and charging a fee about 5 years ago, but that adds to the expense and limits access. The problem is worse now. It is difficult enough with patients who should be seeing a medical person rather than asking for advice long distance, but the SPAM is truly obnoxious.

Legislation has been proposed in Washington (not that all SPAM originates in the USA), but so far the "business interests" like the Chambers of Commerce organization have opposed limiting SPAM because they call it "advertising". With our current administration being a corporate culture, I do not expect to see much support for limiting any kind of commerce. Please don't blame the American people, most of us did not vote for Bush... and more will not soon. My apologies to any Republicans here, and I don't mean to introduce polemics to an ultrasound discussion group, but this is becoming a serious problem. Until the corporate culture currently in control of the USA's administration says stop, I see little hope.

If anyone has suggestions or wants to pay for a lobbying group to oppose the Chambers of Commerce, et al... please suggest what to do.

Sorry I don't have better answers...

Peace, Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS Chair, Ultrasound section OBGYN.net Little Rock, Arkansas USA

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:46:18 +1000 "Sue Davies" <sue@aiu.edu.au> writes: Excellence in practical education...... Programs built to suit the individual.......

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Dear Terry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    I'm not sure if you're the correct person to be asking but is there any
way we can stop the increasing numbers of thoroughly objectionable emails we
are receiving via obgyn? Whoever sends them is getting sneakier so it's
difficult to filter them out with software rules.

Cheers

Sue Sue Davies Program Director Australian Institute of Ultrasound




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