Re: One-Hour Fetus Photo

From: Terry J DuBose (tjdubose@juno.com)
Sun Sep 8 05:56:23 2002


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Dr. Fougner, there is something ironic with the picture, or image. It does feel like we have stepped through the Looking Glass and have found a Mad Hatter organizing the socioeconomic status of sonography in “un-medicine”.

I know many are very frustrated with the situation, and feel that a great profession is being handed over by default to the uncaring, uneducated greedy… and they appear to be getting away with it because the FDA, AMA, ACR, ACOG, SDMS, AIUM, and others who should be directing medicine are simply publishing “policies” forbiding the non-medical use of ultrasound. All the while these non-medical “fetal foto” studio operators go about making their pretty baby faces for big $$, and not carring if the fetus has “three legs” because it is a non-medical imaging session. And to add insult to injury, the dedicated and educated RDMS certified sonographers are getting hammered 8 hours a day, then many have to take call-back coverage at all hours of the day & night. It is a bit crazy making.

If something is not done, then I think we will see many highly qualified sonographers break ranks and go self-employed non-medical so that they can simply set their own schedules, if nothing more… and it appears that there may be much more reward in dealing with the pleasantries of fetal fotos versus the rigor of hospital/clinical regimes and the difficulties thereof.

What ever happened with the AIUM/SDMS push to get the FDA to act on their own regulations?

Peace, Terry J DuBose, RDMS Little Rock, Arkansas USA

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--------------------------------------------- On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:45:51 -0500 evsono@pipeline.com (art fougner, md)

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writes:
> once again may i point out the irony here.  the study performed by
> medical professionals for medical indications gets reimbursed in a
> miserly fashion by a managed cost organization and entails maximal
> liability exposure while those performing the the entertainment
> sonogram
> receive higher remuneration and in cash - no hassle, no paperwork.
> are
> we nuts???
>
> art
>
> At Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Terry J DuBose wrote:
> >
> >That's an option.  Of course, it hands over the profession to those
> who
> >have no sonographic skills or education, and don't care anything
> about
> >quality health care.  I don't think that will stop the non-medical
> use of
> >ultrasound, it will only exacerbate the situation.
> >
> >Peace, Terry J DuBose, RDMS
> >
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------
> >On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:13:12 -0500 <snip>) writes:
> >------------------------------------------
> >------------------------------------------
> >> My question is, why doesn't the ARDMS take disciplinary action
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >--
> >------------------------------------------
> >> against
> >------------------------------------------
> >> registered sonographers who perform this type of scan while
> >------------------------------------------
> >> thumbing
> >> their noses at the FDA?
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- Marilyn Ringstaff
> >> >> <marilyn.ringstaff@medispecialty.com> wrote:
> >> >> > The Wall Street Journal
> >> >> > Copyright (c) 2002, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thursday, September 5, 2002
> >> >> >
> >> >> > New at the Mall: One-Hour Fetus Photo
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > Moms Love New High-Tech Ultrasounds, but Doctors
> >> >> > Fear Overuse
> >> >> > By Amy Dockser Marcus
> >> >> >
> >> >> > NATALIE SHARP HAD an ultrasound in her 20th week of
> >> >> > pregnancy, but the
> >> >> > technician at her doctor's office wasn't able to
> >> >> > tell her the sex of the
> >> >> > baby.  So she went to the mall and found out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At the Fetal Fotos Inc.  studio in Salt Lake City,
> >> >> > the 28-year-old got
> >> >> > two ultrasound sessions for $120 and discovered she
> >> >> > was having a girl.
> >> >> > She also walked away with portraits of the baby's
> >> >> > face to send to her
> >> >> > family and a keepsake video -- set to a lullaby --
> >> >> > of the baby moving..
> >> >> > .Meanwhile, fetal-portrait studios are booming.
> >> >> > Fetal Fotos, founded
> >> >> > in 1994 in Salt Lake City, now operates five such
> >> >> > stores around the
> >> >> > country, and is opening more during coming months in
> >> >> > Dallas; Scottsdale,
> >> >> > Ariz.; Denver; Portland, Ore.; and Ontario, Calif.
> >> >> > Typically, they
> >> >> > offer framed pics and videos.  One studio, Before
> >> >> > the Stork, in
> >> >> > Bloomington, Ind., offers a trimester package (three
> >> >> > visits for $170)
> >> >> > and a $325 "watch my development" package (six
> >> >> > portrait sessions, plus a
> >> >> > stuffed animal and a picture frame).  Many women
> >> >> > send videos to
> >> >> > grandparents who live far away or screen the tapes
> >> >> > at baby showers..  .
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> =====
> >> >> David J. Berck, MD, MPH
> >> >>
> >> >> http://finance.yahoo.com
> >> >>
> >>
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> ich bin ein New Yorker
>
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Dr. Fougner, there is something ironic with the picture, or image.  It does feel like we have stepped through the Looking Glass and have found a Mad Hatter organizing the socioeconomic status of sonography in “un-medicine”. 

 

I know many are very frustrated with the situation, and feel that a great profession is being handed over by default to the uncaring, uneducated greedy… and they appear to be getting away with it because the FDA, AMA, ACR, ACOG, SDMS, AIUM, and others who should be directing medicine are simply publishing “policies” forbiding the non-medical use of ultrasound.  All the while these non-medical “fetal foto” studio operators go about making their pretty baby faces for big $$, and not carring if the fetus has “three legs” because it is a non-medical imaging session.  And to add insult to injury, the dedicated and educated RDMS certified sonographers are getting hammered 8 hours a day, then many have to take call-back coverage at all hours of the day & night.  It is a bit crazy making. 

 

If something is not done, then I think we will see many highly qualified sonographers break ranks and go self-employed non-medical so that they can simply set their own schedules, if nothing more… and it appears that there may be much more reward in dealing with the pleasantries of fetal fotos versus the rigor of hospital/clinical regimes and the difficulties thereof. 

 

What ever happened with the AIUM/SDMS push to get the FDA to act on their own regulations?

 

Peace, Terry J DuBose, RDMS

Little Rock, Arkansas USA

 
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:45:51 -0500 evsono@pipeline.com (art fougner, md) writes:
> once again may i point out the irony here.  the study performed by
> medical professionals for medical indications gets reimbursed in a
> miserly fashion by a managed cost organization and entails maximal
> liability exposure while those performing the the entertainment
> sonogram
> receive higher remuneration and in cash - no hassle, no paperwork. 
> are
> we nuts???
>
> art
>
> At Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Terry J DuBose wrote:
> >
> >That's an option.  Of course, it hands over the profession to those
> who
> >have no sonographic skills or education, and don't care anything
> about
> >quality health care.  I don't think that will stop the non-medical
> use of
> >ultrasound, it will only exacerbate the situation.
> >
> >Peace, Terry J DuBose, RDMS
> >
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >On Sat,=20 >------------------------------------------
> >
> >On 7 Sep 2002 16:13:12 -0500 <snip>) writes:
>=20 >------------------------------------------
> >
> >On >------------------------------------------
> >> My question is,=20 >------------------------------------------
> >> My questionwhy doesn't the ARDMS take disciplinary action
> >
>=20 >------------------------------------------
> >> My question>--
> >------------------------------------------
> >>=20 >--
> >------------------------------------------
> >&against
> >> registered sonographers who perform this type of = >--
> >------------------------------------------
> >&scan while
> >> thumbing
> >> their noses at the FDA?
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- Marilyn Ringstaff
> >> >> <marilyn.ringstaff@medispecialty.com> wrote:
> >> >> > The Wall Street Journal
> >> >> > Copyright (c) 2002, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thursday, September 5, 2002
> >> >> >
> >> >> > New at the Mall: One-Hour Fetus Photo
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > Moms Love New High-Tech Ultrasounds, but Doctors
> >> >> > Fear Overuse
> >> >> > By Amy Dockser Marcus
> >> >> >
> >> >> > NATALIE SHARP HAD an ultrasound in her 20th week of
> >> >> > pregnancy, but the
> >> >> > technician at her doctor's office wasn't able to
> >> >> > tell her the sex of the
> >> >> > baby.  So she went to the mall and found out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At the Fetal Fotos Inc.  studio in Salt Lake City,
> >> >> > the 28-year-old got
> >> >> > two ultrasound sessions for $120 and discovered she
> >> >> > was having a girl.
> >> >> > She also walked away with portraits of the baby's
> >> >> > face to send to her
> >> >> > family and a keepsake video -- set to a lullaby --
> >> >> > of the baby moving..
> >> >> > .Meanwhile, fetal-portrait studios are booming.
> >> >> > Fetal Fotos, founded
> >> >> > in 1994 in Salt Lake City, now operates five such
> >> >> > stores around the
> >> >> > country, and is opening more during coming months in
> >> >> > Dallas; Scottsdale,
> >> >> > Ariz.; Denver; Portland, Ore.; and Ontario, Calif.
> >> >> > Typically, they
> >> >> > offer framed pics and videos.  One studio, Before
> >> >> > the Stork, in
> >> >> > Bloomington, Ind., offers a trimester package (three
> >> >> > visits for $170)
> >> >> > and a $325 "watch my development" package (six
> >> >> > portrait sessions, plus a
> >> >> > stuffed animal and a picture frame).  Many women
> >> >> > send videos to
> >> >> > grandparents who live far away or screen the tapes
> >> >> > at baby showers..  .
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> =====
> >> >> David J. Berck, MD, MPH
> >> >>
> >> >> http://finance.yahoo.com
> >> >>
> >>
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> ich bin ein New Yorker
>
>
 
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