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Re: Threatenad abortion and usg From: DuBose, Terry (DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu) Sun Dec 23 13:31:50 2001 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Previous message: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Maybe in reply to: Belal Hossain: "Threatenad abortion and usg" Next in thread: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Reply: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Dr. Margulies, That is a amusing story. Now that you have brought the subject up, I also remember a discussion of "endovaginal" and "transvaginal" from long ago . It was a purely academic argument that "endo-" was from Greek and "vagina" was Latin and the two should not be combined. This person preferred the two Latin combining forms together: "transvaginal". However, others were arguing that "endovaginal" as more accurate because the transducer was inside the vagina, and "transvaginal" implied outside the vagina but looking across the vagina. Both terms seem to work, at least they seem to be used interchangeably. I like your historical definitions as well as the more esoteric, academic ones. Perhaps there is a more experienced medical etymologist among us who can comment. Dr. Margulies, I did not see the world news this month without thinking of you and your family, and that of Hector and Alicia Lapidus. I realize these must be difficult times for you in Argentina... you and our other friends in Argentina are in our thoughts. Hoping for happy holidays and a better new year for you all.. Peace, Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS Assistant Professor & Director, Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program CHRP, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 501-686-6510 http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm> http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm <http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Margulies [mailto:danymarg@fibertel.com.ar] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 3:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND Subject: Re: Threatenad abortion and usg Long time ago, speaking to Prof. Manfred Hansmann ( 1983 ) I have asked him how to name the study, Endovaginal or transvaginal and He answered " It all depends on how hard you push " Sorry for the joke Phisically is absolutelly imposible that the full bladder or the normal pressure of the probe can initiate an abortion. Just impossible -- Daniel Margulies >----- Original Message ----- From: Allen <mailto:jworrall@alaska.net> Worrall To: Multiple recipients of list <mailto:ultrasound@mail.medispecialty.com> ULTRASOUND Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Threatenad abortion and usg I do not believe the full bladder or the transducer pressure had anything to do with this patient's spontaneous abortion. I also do not believe that transvaginal ultrasound has anything to do with spontaneous abortion, and I believe transvaginal ultrasound is a much better way to evaluate vaginal bleeding during the 1st trimester of pregnancy. However, we cannot control what our patient's believe and there is always the risk of the patient believing that the ultrasound should not have been done, and that the ultrasound caused the miscarriage. Patients are more likely to blame a transvaginal scan that a transabdominal scan in my opinion. I personally have never had the problem of a patient accusing me of causing a miscarriage by ultrasound. If the sonographer or sonologist or radiologist is telling your patients that ultrasound will cause a miscarriage, you have a problem. Joseph A Worrall MD RDMS OB/GYN Ultrasound at the Fairbanks Clinic Fairbanks, Alaska, USA jworrall@alaska.net <mailto:jworrall@alaska.net> www.obgynsono.com <http://www.obgynsono.com> Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Previous message: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Maybe in reply to: Belal Hossain: "Threatenad abortion and usg" Next in thread: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg" Reply: art fougner, md: "Re: Threatenad abortion and usg"

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