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Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment? From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com) Thu Feb 22 07:48:36 2001 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: Ultrasound-Diagnosis or treatment?" Previous message: amstaff: "Pelvic Kidney" In reply to: DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu: "Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment?" Next in thread: Dr Fazeel uz Zaman: "Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment?" actually this brings up a more important issue - ultrasound, or any imaging modality for that matter, is pretty good at telling you that something's there. it doesn't tell you what it is. that's why reports are couched in delphic oracle modifiers - "most likely, consistent with", etc. and often end with the infamous "clinical correlation is recommended." just my opinion - i could be wrong. art At Wed, 21 Feb 2001, DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu wrote: > >I care to differ, starting with the fact that I am not a "technologist". I >am a sonographer, and many times have had Emergency Room physicians ask me >"what do you see." > >Sorry, you are still operating in the paridigm that there is no difference >between a technologist and a sonographer... Sonographers are properly, much >closer to a physician's assistant than to a technologist. > >Please go to the SDMS web site and read the definations: >http://www.sdms.org/membership/default.asp ><http://www.sdms.org/membership/default.asp> > >Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, Assistant Professor >Director, Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program >CHRP, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences >Little Rock, Arkansas, USA >501-686-6510 >http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> >http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm> > >http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm ><http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> > >-----Original Message----- >From: AKJENNINGS@aol.com [mailto:AKJENNINGS@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:38 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND >Subject: Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment? > >Ultrasound technologists should ONLY describe what they see when making a >written report. For example, a report should say "Inhomogeneous, solid >appearing mass seen without increased blood flow. The measurements are ..." > >instead of "Fibroid". We are not physicians, and we open ourselves up for >liability when we over step our position. If the physician ask what we >think, then I would tell the doctor what I think the diagnosis and follow up > >should be. I would not put it in writing. They are the doctors, and we are > >the technologists. > >Anita Jennings RDMS -- art fougner, md A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote. Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: Ultrasound-Diagnosis or treatment?" Previous message: amstaff: "Pelvic Kidney" In reply to: DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu: "Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment?" Next in thread: Dr Fazeel uz Zaman: "Re: Ultrasound--diagnosis or treatment?"

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