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Re: Educational History Re: Requirements for ARDMS exam..From: Anne Conner-Day (aconnerday@forsyth.cc.nc.us)Sun Feb 11 15:09:45 2001
I beleive that many of us in the 70"s went to a short term program 6 months or less then went out into the world to scan. Locally that was all there was. (and locally in the South means regionally) I lived with Netter's Anatomy in my hand since there were few books written. I had a difficult time explaining to the Radiologist that turning up the gain did not allow me to see through air pockets. In my first sonography position a particular Radiologist kept wanting my images to look like the CT images! I remember crying alot at night but I persisted in trying to learn. Twenty plus years later here I am very satisfied with my choice of professions. Anne Conner-Day <<< tjdubose@juno.com 2/11 4:37p >>> -----Original Message----- From: Jean Lea SpitzTo: soundadvice@listbox.com Sent: 2/11/01 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Requirements for ARDMS exam.. Hi Rich --- thanks for the good words about the University of Oklahoma program. The tuition is low compared to many schools and averages between 1.5-3K per semester depending on resident/non-resident status. One correction, the graduates do not get an RT as part of the program. It is confusing because the degree is a BSRT (set with the first degree program, radiogaphy in the 1960's)but there are separate and distinct 2 year programs for sonography, radiation therapy, nuclear medicine, and radiography within the department. I've noticed that a lot of the graduates drop the BSRT after graduation and put BS behind their names, which is probably less confusing. We do have students who enter the program with an RT. The majority of the students/graduates do not have an RT. Jean Lea Spitz
>----- Original Message ----- Terry , A few years back it ( tuition cost for a 4 year program for state resident) was approx $10K at the University of Oklahoma. The grad earned a BS , and also an RT, and curriculum pathways leading to an RDCS or RDMS, which left them truly 'eligible' and prepared with sufficient clinical hours to sit for the Boards, immediately. I worked at Columbia/Presbyterian in OKC in early 1997., and met and worked with several graduates from the program. They were first-rate, even "wet-behind-the ears." Jean Lea Spitz was program director at the time, I believe. Not everyone has the time nor luxury to obtain a 4 year college education. Motivation ,intellectual curiosity, and the desire to excell will overcome almost all obstacles (except prejudice). However, the 4 year degree will ultimately be the future of Ultrasound, and help establish sonography as a 'profession' , once formal education in an approved program is mandatory. (BTW, all I HAVE is an A.S. from a community college in RadTech, circa 1979, with OJT in Ultrasound beginning in '86 and 10 years RDMS/RVT. ) But I know where the future of Sonography lies. And, I welcome it. Rich Dempsey RDMS/RVT
> ----- Original Message ----- Andrea, as an educator I am interested in what you say. I am one of those who have/had a poor opinion of the UDS schools. Many here will remember the newspaper article about their graduates' class action lawsuit they lost a year or so ago. May I ask a couple of questions? When you say, "..., the reality is that I would not have my career if it wasn't for them." Do you mean that you have your career because you went to that school and that was the only way for you to become a sonographer, or because you did not try to get into an accredited program? May I ask what your total tuition was? Ours is about $6700.00 (Arkansas residents, a little over twice that for out of state tuition) for two years that will result in a Bachelor's Degree in DMS (with the appropriate prerequisite 58 Semester Credits). We give P&I, ABD, OB/GYN, and either vascular or cardiac, plus more than enough clinical time during those 2 years. Just curious. Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, Assistant Professor Director, Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program CHRP, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Little Rock, Arkansas, USA -----Origina
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