Re: CIRCUMCISION......people please

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I agree that restraining a baby in order to do this seems harsh, but if you have ever seen special care RN's trying to put an IVin the top of a newborn's head, then you would understand that at times it is necessary for them to restrain the infant. I've seen two circumcisions, my nephew's and that of a friends' newborn baby. And the latter seemed less painful for the infant than trying to insert an IV. They did use a numbing cream before doing the circumcision. Either circumstance, it's painful for parents to see their newborn in any type of pain or discomfort.

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Buff" <anonymous@obgyn.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list PREGNANCY-BIRTH" <pregnancy-birth@forum.obgyn.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Re: CIRCUMCISION......people please

> The original poster didn't ask to debate the why's, she came looking for
> answers to her questions, as it seems she's already made up her mind
> what she's going to do should she deliver a son. Everyone has their
> attitudes about such and no one is going to change anyone's mind, so
> let's not turn this board into a bicker-fest (like some other boards I
> frequent). It gets old and drives people away.
>
> At Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Anna wrote:
> >
> >Okay, so there's the appendix, and the earlobes, and we don't really
> >need body hair any more (unless we decide to move to North Dakota :-),
> >but do we perform routine surgery on very young children to remove these
> >things, unless they cause a particular health risk? If, for whatever
> >reason, most people had their earlobes amputated, would you do that to
> >your baby?
> >In the end, it wouldn't even matter if the foreskin served no purpose
> >whatsoever. The thought of having a tiny baby boy strapped down and
> >cut, whether with or without anesthetic, just to be more acceptable to
> >society, is at least questionable. It's pretty much the same argument
> >that people use for female genital mutilation - if you wouldn't cut the
> >labia off your daughter, why cut the foreskin off your son?
> >
> >--
> >Anna
> >
> >At Wed, 31 Jan 2001, William McIntosh, MD wrote:
> >>
> >>At Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Anna wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Try this: http://www.nocirc.org
> >>>Not that I want to proselytize, but where I come from, practically
> >>>nobody is circumsized, and the idea of needlessly cutting bits off your
> >>>newborn son would be as ridiculous to most people as cutting them off
> >>>your newborn daughter. If the foreskin served no purpose, why would it
> >>>be there? Nature doesn't waste things.
> >>
> >>Not to debate the issue of circumcision, but Mother Nature wastes things
> >>all the time. There are any number of body parts and functions that are
> >>relics of bygone eras and have no current use.
> >>
> >>>--
> >>>Anna
> >>>
> >>>At Tue, 30 Jan 2001, William McIntosh, MD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>At Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Robyn wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have some questions I'm hoping someone can give answers to.
> >>>>>I am pregnant now with baby #2. I don't know the sex of this baby &
> >>>>>won't find out until I give birth (my first baby is my 3yr old
> >>>>>daughter). I'm hoping to find out as much about circumcision now,
> >>>>>before I give birth, so that if this baby is a boy, I will be better
> >>>>>prepared. My husband was cicumsized as a baby, so we are thinking
about > >>>>>doing the same if we have a son. I'm sorry so many questions, but as
I > >>>>>said, I'm looking for as much info as I can get... so any help and
> >>>>>websites you can offer is greatly appreciated.
> >>>>>How safe is the actual circumcision procedure? Is it done before
being > >>>>>discharged after giving birth? Where is it done... in operating
room? > >>>>>How long does the procedure take & how long does it take to heal?
Does > >>>>>it hurt the baby whenever the baby has to urinate (while healing)?
What > >>>>>kind of pain meds are offered & how are they administerd & are they
safe > >>>>>for newborns?
> >>>>>Again, thank you for any help. I'm trying to get as much info now as
I > >>>>>can.
> >>>>
> >>>>Circumcision is a extremely safe, typically performed the morning of
> >>>>discharge in the nursery in about 5-10 minutes, usually by
> >>>>pediatricians. There has been some debate about whether there is any
> >>>>pain, and most believe today that there is. Numbing medicine is
> >>>>applied, either to the skin in the form of a cream, or with a needle
> >>>>just under the skin of the penis. They are quite safe as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>Circumcision is not a medically necessary proceedure in the opinion of
> >>>>most, however it has a profound cultural signifigance for many,
> >>>>particularly in the United States, where upwards of 75% of men are
> >>>>circumsized. Most parents have clear views on the subject, typically
> >>>>chosing to make baby like Daddy.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>William D. McIntosh, MD, FACOG
> >>>>
> >>>>This is for educational purposes only, and is neither designed nor
intended to replace consultation with and examination by a licensed medical professional. > >>>>
> >>>>Please, no private e-mails. I will not be able to answer them.
> >>>>
> >>--
> >>William D. McIntosh, MD, FACOG
> >>
> >>This is for educational purposes only, and is not a substitute
> >>for consultation and examination by a licensed medical professional.
> >>
>

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