PCOS Messages for September, 2003: Re: For Marie

Re: For Marie

From: Barbara (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:32 -0500 (CDT)

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At Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Marie wrote: >

Hi Marie, I will write as I scroll downwards,.

>At Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Barbara wrote:
>Thanks for all the terrific info.
>
>One thing I have to say is that Chromium Picinolate has been removed off
>all the shelves here in Canada due to kidney and liver problems it has
>caused.
>POSSIBLE WITH THE OTHER FORMULATIONS, THEY STILL CARY IT IN USA, TRY
>INTERNET, LONGS DRUG STORE HAS A GENERIC
>

I have read from many good sources that it is not reccomended for use.I am reluctant to use something that has had documented organ failure from it's use.I am one that is living with heart failure presently....directly related from the use of certain medications that were wrongly prescribed for me. I am very reluctant to use something till I have researched it,as well as discuss it first with my doctor who is very nutritionally conscious.He knows about most,but I still like to get others opinions.THIS PICINOLATE STUFF IS WORRYING ME BECAUSE I HAD TAKEN IT FOR A WHILE....I ALSO FELT WORSE ON IT...I ALSO FEEL BAD ON THE GTF ,SO HAVE DITCHED IT.I HAVE STARTED THE LIPOIC ACID AND WE WILL SEE...MY BLOOD SUGARS NEVER GO HIGH TO WARRANT IT ANYWAYS,..BUT I DO KNOW THAT I AM IN A PRE DIABETIC CONDITION THAT I WISH I COULD JUST TREAT WITH DIET AND EXERCISE AND A FEW SUPPLEMENTS ALONE.MET AND GLUCOPHAGE WERE NOT FOR ME.I WAS WASTING AWAY ON THEM.I LOST SO MUCH WEIGHT...I WAS TERRIBLY ILL. WILL NEVER TAKE THEM AGAIN.

>Can u tell me about what u heard about the chromium GTF?
>GTF IS BAD AND NOT RECOMMENDED......

WHY IS IT BAD AND NOT RECOMMENDED?THERE MUST BE A REASON.I HAVE READ A BIT ABOUT IT,NOT TOO NEGATIVE,,BUT SO FAR IT SEEMED SAFE IF TAKEN AT A FAIRILY LOW DOSE IN MCG.

>I was taking a brand a few years ago with chromium+Vanadium which
>included..niacin and vitamin C.I think that was a good combo.At the
>time,it was chromium picinolate.
>I have to look up the other supplements u suggest.I am on soooooo many
>it isn't even funny.
>
>I am not diabetic(yet),not overweight and my cholesterol is NOW within
>normal range since taking some supplements(I believe).
>DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE PCOS, POSSIBLY SECONDARY ADRENAL
>INSUFFICIENCY, HAVE YOUR DHEA LEVELS CHECKED ALSO ADD B5, 25mg DHEA
>DAILY IF DEFICIENT

I MOST DEFINITELY HAVE PCOS...I HAVE VERY HIGH LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE,ANDROGENS AND ELEVATED DHEA'S....YES..I KNOW IT MAY NOT SEEM THAT WAY BUT ONLY 50% OF WOMEN WITH PCOS ARE OVERWEIGHT.AS FOR MY CHOLESTEROL..I WAS ALWAYS HYPERCHOLESTEROL TILL THE LAST THREE MONTHS;;;;I HAD POSTED ALL MY DHEA,ANDROGENS,TESTOSTERONE LEVELS A WHILE BACK.AT THE MOMENT I DO NOT HAVE THEM HANDY,BUT OH YES....I HAVE THE PEARLY STRING OF CYSTS ON OVARIES....I DO KNOW THAT IT IS STRANGE THAT I OVULATE MONTHLY..BUT I HAVE SUFFERED A TOTAL OF NINE MISCARRIAGES...NEVER CARRIED TO FULL TERM.PERIODS WERE MONTHLY,BUT IRREGULAR..THEY WOULD BE EVERY 21 DAYS...SOMETIMES EVERY 35 DAYS..,,AND THE MORE HEALTH PROBLEMS I GOT..THE MORE IRREGULAR THE PERIODS BECAME.

>I have normal periods and I do ovulate every month.The only problem is
>that the last while.the last year since I have been having problems with
>my heart..my periods were not regular.I would miss a month or two.First
>time in my life that happend,but I assumed from all the trauma I went
>through with tests on my heart and my heart not pumping efficiently.It
>was terrible.
>LOW PB OR SUPINE HYPOTENSION?(COMMON WITH SECONDARY ADRENAL
>INSUFFICIENCY, ALSO LOW BP AND SYNCOPE ASSOOCIATED WITH AUTONOMIC
>DYSFUNCTION GOTO:HTTP://WWW.NDRF.ORG\

yES THANKS...I DON'T HAVE LOW BP....I VARY CONSIDERABLY WITH MY BLOOD PRESSURES...I WAS TOLD THERE IS AN ORTHOSTATIC COMPOSITE TO MY CONDITION,RE TILT TABLE TESTING.THANKS THOUGH FOR THE THOUGHTS ON THIS.;)

I have had problems on and off with loss of head hair and body hair.I >don't have alot of excess body hair..just a bit from umbilicus to pubic
>area...a couple thready hairs on my nipples and one or two on my neck
>that I had for years.
>SOUNDS LIKE SECONDARY AI

NO....I WAS TOLD AND HAVE RESEARCHED THAT PCOS,AS ANY ILLNESS CAN WAX AND WANE...SINCE BEING HORMONAL..POSSIBLY,WHEN MY INSULIN LEVELS AND HORMONES WERE BALANCED,,THINGS BALANCED OUT FOR A WHILE...THE PHILOPOPHY BEHIND IT IS SOMEWHAT PERPLEXING TO ME..I DON'T HAVE AI FOR SURE NOT...MY ADRENALS KICK IN BECAUSE OF\EACTIVE HYPOGLECEMIC TIMES....LIKE WHEN I DON'T EAT.I HAVE BEEN TESTED FOR ADRENALINE INSUFFICIENCY...CORTISOL...ADISONS.....THE OTHER CUSHINGS ETC..NOPE.....HAD ALL THE TESTS DONE. I HAD TAKEN DONG QUAI FOR YEARS ON AND OFF LONG BEFORE I KNEW I HAD PCOS..I TOOK IT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO CONCEIVE AND IT DEFINITELY DID MAKE MY PERIODS REGULAR....ONLY THING...IT RAISES BLOOD PRESSURE AND IS NOT RECCOMMENDED FOR HYPOGLECEMIA....I BELIEVE THIS IS WHY I HAD ALWAYS HAD PERIODS AND OVULATED....IMY BODY WAS TRYING.....JUST WOULDN'T TURN ON THE RIGHT HORMONES..YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH SUPPLEMENTS,SO I FOUND OUT NOW...LOL

>Any thoughts on what would help grow more hair?I had a great head of
>hair the last two years and had been also having problems on and off
>with this.I started losing in March and now the shedding has stopped but
>I want to regrow again.I know it can be done because I had very thin
>hair in my early twenties,which regrew into a beautiful lions mane.Now
>you can see some of my scalp in the front and it bothers me.It is not
>bad,but the way I like to give height to my hairstyle..you can sort of
>see through the top..that is where I lost the most.
>CHROMIMUM+B5 HELPS HAIR AND NAILS GROW, ALSO TAKE CAL/MAG/ZINC, HAVE
>THYROID+ANTIBODIES CHECKED HYPO CAN CAUSE HAIR LOSS

YES, I KNOW ..THEY HAVE CHECKED MY THYROID MORE TIMES THAN THER ARE DAYS IN A YEAR...LOL! I DO TAKE CAL MAG ZINK-I TAKE A SUPPLEMENT RECOMMENDED BY MY DOCTOR CALLED CORAL CALCIUM WHICH HE HAS DONE ALOT OF RESEARCH ON.I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY OTHER TYPE.I MAKE CERTAIN NOW{BECAUSE IN THE PAST I HAD TAKE SUPPLEMENTS WITHOUT RESEARCHING THEM AND TAKING THE INTERNETS WORD..THERE IS TOO MUCH OUT THERE...YOU MUST GET INFO FROM RELIABLE SOURCES}I HAD TO LEARN THE HARD WAY.NOT ALL SUPPLEMENTS ARE RIGHT FOR U.I ALSO UNDERSTAND NOW THAT TAKING SOMETHING CHELATED IS THE WORST THING BECAUSE IF YOUR BODY DOES NOT NEED IT,IS STORES IT AND TOO MANY SUPPLEMENTS IS JUST AS BAD AS TOO LITTLE..I WOULD RATHER HAVE MY BODY DISPOSE OF WHAT IT DOES NOT NEED.I HAVE REGULAR MINERAL,VITAMIN ANALYSIS HERE DONE...I WORK WITH A VERY COMPETANT DOCTOR WHO DOES MUCH RESEARCH IN THE FIELD OF NATURAL REMEDIES.CORAL CALCIUM CONTAINS 72 OTHER MINERALS..SO I HAVE AN ABUNDANCE IN MY BODY OF ALL.ABSORPTION OF THE CORAL CALCIUM IS THE BEST FROM RESEARCH.YOU HAVE TO GET THE OKINOWA TYPE......JAPANESE HAVE LOW RATES OF CANCER,HEART DISEASE ETC...

,>I can see baby hairs growing,but am worried. >
>Anyways..do you know if asthma is associated with PCOS.I was told it was
>associated with IR from my doctor.YOu had mentioned it in the last post.
>I am going to read the links you posted.
>IMMUNESYSTEM.....ALOT OF PEOPLE W/ASTHMA+ HAVE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM
>PROBLEMS(ANTIBODIES-IMMUNE)

YEP....I WAS TOLD THAT TOO...JUST WANTED TO SEE IF SOMEONE ELSE WITH PCOS HAD ASTHMA..MY DOCTOR SAID IT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF MY BLOOD SUGAR ABNORMALITIES,BUT TO DATE ,I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY VALID PROOF.I DO BELIEVE AS U,THAT IT HAS ALOT TO DO WITH THE IMMUNE SYSTEM...BUT AGAIN..I WAS TOLD MY IMMUNE SYSTEM IS STRONG....WHO KNOWS..I THINK NOT!HOW ON EARTH CAN IT BE STRONG WHEN I HAVE SO MANY HEALTH PROBLEMS AT 42 YEARS OF AGE.

THANKS SO MUCH MARIE....YOU ARE VERY HELPFUL! ;)

>Thanks so much Marie,
>
>--
>Barbara(know before as Barb C.) for those that forgot me:)
>

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