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Re: PCOS digest 2705
From: ANGELA (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:55:07 -0400
Could you please remove me from your email list.
-Thank you
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
>Subject: PCOS digest 2705
>Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:42:01 -0500
>
> PCOS Digest 2705
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) re. mood and bcp
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> 2) How can I help my Daughter?
> by faychapman@aol.com (Faye)
> 3) Re: Private vs. Public Chat Rm
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Stella)
> 4) Re: Anyone taking or have taken Flutamide and Yasmin?
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Laura)
> 5) Re: New book I found at the library
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (J.W.J.)
> 6) Re: How can I help my Daughter?
> by JanetHeller@msn.com (Janet Heller)
>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:54:38 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: re. mood and bcp
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Hi
>Re. moodiness...are you eating regularly, sleeping and managing life's
>stresses
>with exercise or some form of relaxation? Do you cover your nutritional
>needs with a multivitamin and calcium supplement? It's possible the pill
>is to blame, but
>I would make sure your other habits aren't contributing to your moods. I
>live in boston,
>and sometimes the traffic and the climate up here just makes me
>cranky...but I don't think I can blame it on the pill.
>
>I had very bad experiences with spiranolactone, but I seem to tolerate
>Yasmin
>pretty well. You may want to adjust your meds after discussing with
>your ob/gyn.
>I really recommend finding a good ob/gyn.
>
>When I was first diagnosed, I was prescribed spiro by an ob/gyn, and
>when I couldn't tolerate it, she really made me feel bad about it. She
>prescribed me ortho-tri cyclen which is a pretty high dose bcp, and I
>was miserable with headaches, etc. I stopped immediately, and let my
>body detox for a while.
>
>I don't want to be a spokesperson for Yasmin, but it seems to be one of
>better
>low dose estrogen pills on the market. I would give it a couple of
>months and see how
>you feel.
>
>If you are taking spiro for hair reasons...find a good electrologist.
>They can
>work wonders.
>
>I know we're all different, but I hope this helps!
>
>The best thing is to find a dr. that you can really work with to manage
>this condition.
>
>Best wishes!
>
>At Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Melanie wrote:
> >
> >Hmm.. Well, i know what you mean about not knowing if it's you or not,
> >but I'm pretty sure that the BCP does make me crazier simply because I
> >cry so so much more when I'm on it over the dumbest things. The Yasmin
> >has definately made me a little more emotional, but not postal. It's
> >the migraines that are killing me. I just can't win!!! So, the only
> >things I've tried before are BCPS (Orthrocept, Loestrin, and Allesse)
> >and Spiro. My doctor doesn't seem to want to give me insulin meds
> >because I think my tests have shown up not too bad insulin-wise. I
> >excerise a lot and eat fairly well (i'm a fish "vegetarian", but I have
> >sweet tooth that I'm trying to curb. "Fortunately" sugar and caffiene
> >seem to be the 2 main migraine triggers so I'm cutting back fast!)
> >
> >Other than BCPs I don't know what else I cant ry. I feel so much better
> >emotionally when I'm on nothing, but then my hair starts to fall out and
> >my periods become irregular, so I think I'll have to deal for now.
> >
> >If you have any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them. I'll have to
> >ask my doc about Demulen...
> >
> >M
> >
> >At Thu, 11 Apr 2002, jodi wrote:
> >>
> >>I don't really know how to answer that. :-/ My experinces with BCP is
> >>they have ALL caused changes in my mood, ranging from mild-to-pronounced
> >>crankiness to sitting on my bed digging a knife into my wrist. The
> >>problem is, when I feel just cranky on BCPs... well, I don't know if I
> >>can REALLY blame it on the BCP or if it might just be me. I mean... I
> >>get cranky off BCPs, too. I do recall one day shortly after starting
> >>the Mircette, I was driving home from work, and I swear I hit a red
> >>light at every single intersection, and this got me really really
> >>angry... but I couldn't figure out if I was unduly angry, or if hitting
> >>every light at red was unusal, or what... :-)
> >>
> >>Basically, all BCPs seem to cause changes in my mood, but some changes
> >>are more or less bearable than others... sometimes I think it would be
> >>nice to go back on the pill, but I have concluded after long years of
> >>research (with myself as the guinea pig) that BCPs and I just do not
> >>mix.
> >>
> >>That's too bad about the spiro causing the migraines in you.
> >>
> >>Have you by any chance tried the BCP Desogen? I know at least one lady
> >>here has had good luck with that one, it's supposed to be good for PCOS.
> >>I had horrible depression on it, though, so I had to quit after a
> >>week...
> >>
> >>Are you trying anything else - insulin meds, diet - to control your
> >>PCOS?
> >>
> >>- jodi
> >>
> >>At Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Melanie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Jodi,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the suggestions!! I actually tried Spriro first and that's
> >>>when I got my first migraine (last Oct.). I'm thinking it's the
> >>>antiandrogen that's causing it although my doc says it's the estrogen...
> >>>
> >>>He was pretty much frustrated with me on the phone the other day when I
> >>>told him about the migraine. He was like, "well your body is sensitive
> >>>to everything so you're running out of options" Great. I'm scared to
> >>>change pills b/c at least w/ Yasmin I'm not crazy and depressed. Other
> >>>pills seem to do that to me. Did you have any blueness on Mircette?
> >>>
> >--
> >Melanie
> >
>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:27:05 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Faye)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: How can I help my Daughter?
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Looking for some suggestions. My daughter age 17, just found out this
>week that she has PCOS. She will be leaving home for college in 30
>days. Big thing to find out, so close to leaving home for the first
>time. She will start to wear the birth control patch tomorrow, and we
>got information on a diet yesterday. I am really at a loss of what I
>can do for her. Really looking for suggestions.
>
>--
>Mom
>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Stella)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Private vs. Public Chat Rm
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Thanks for being a public forum, I would never have found you otherwise.
>
>Stella
>
>At Thu, 27 Jul 2000, A wrote:
> >
> >On the idea of making the room private....
> >should we really...??? I can remember a few times where women just "stopped in"
> >and stayed awhile after learning a little about PCOS....who knows...we may just
> >help someone out there by leaving this a public room. Just thought I'd raise this
> >point and share my opinion.
> >:-) Alexis
> >
> >Theresa wrote:
> >
> >> >Just wondering how much of a hassel it is to make it a private room -
> >> >we've been getting a lot of interesting visitors lately.
> >>
> >> We can make the chat room password protected...so only those who know
> >> the password can get in. I think Kris is creating the room...so she
> >> should set the password. Just let all of us know what it is!!! *LOL*
> >>
> >> --
> >> big hugs
> >> ~@theresa@~
> >>
>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:21:38 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Laura)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Anyone taking or have taken Flutamide and Yasmin?
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>At Thu, 17 Jul 2003, anonymous wrote:
> >
> >Anyone taken Flutamide and Yasmin? I was just put on both of these and
> >would like to here other people's experience with these meds. On
> >Flutamide, it says that it is used for Prostate problems; I'm confused
> >on why I am taking it. Thanks a bunch!
> >
> >Becky
>
>I am taking Yasmin (just Yasmin, not Flutamide, so I wouldn't know how
>they would interact). I used to take Ortho-Evra, the birth control
>patch, but it made me tired, so I switched to Yasmin. My best friend
>also takes Yasmin (we are both taking it to regulate menstrual
>cycles)and it also keeps her from having the really bad cramps she used
>to get. I am only on my first month of Yasmin, but it seems to be
>working well so far, with no side effects that I have noticed.
>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:23:06 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (J.W.J.)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: New book I found at the library
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>At Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Nicole wrote:
> >
> >Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has read "Its my Ovaries, Stupid" by
> >Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.? I was at the library and it was in the new
> >arrival section. The copyright date is 2003 so I know that it is fairly
> >new. Just wanted to get any thoughts on it before I dug into it.
> >
> >Thanks!!
> >Nicole D
>
>I was excited to read that you found this book, as I have read almost
>the entire previous two books she has written and LOVED them. I even
>bought myself a copy of "Women, Weight and Hormones" and bought one for
>my mother. I thought it was information EVERY woman needs to know about
>herself and how her body works. It was medically sound and pretty easy
>to understand. I even copied parts of it to show my doctor in helping
>him try to help me better.
>
>Jessica
>
>--
>J.W.J.
>
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>
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>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:33:33 -0500 (CDT)
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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Janet Heller)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: How can I help my Daughter?
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>HI Faye,
>As much as sounds so terrible to be diagnosed with PCOS at 17, in many
>ways it's a wonderful thing. I was dx in 1995 at 31, was told that the
>only treatment for it at that time was birth control pills. BCPs gave
>me a pulmonary embolism (something I might like to add is an increased
>risk if you have PCOS).What BCPs do is mask the symptoms of PCOS. THough
>this is not tratment, at 17 it is understandable to want to aleviate as
>many symptoms of PCOS as possible. So, fast foward to 2002 and finaly
>help from my physician's assistant saying that PCOS is now being treated
>with insulin sensitizing drugs such as metformin. O HAPPY DAY!!!! That
>was a year, 40 pounds, and 12 regular periods in arrow ago. I have had
>symptoms since I was 12. I would give anything to have had proper
>treatment at 17.
>
>Now as for help, read everything you can find. IF she hasn't been seen
>by an endocrinologist, I suggest getting her an appointment. PCOS is
>hormonal not a reproductive problem and endos specialize in this field.
>Though my physician's assistant did know about PCOS, she did refer me to
>an endocrinologist. Lower carb diets are important. They do not
>neccessarily have to be extremely low carb. THe big thing is to make
>the carbohydrates that she does eat count. Processed carbs like white
>bread and white pasta should be avoided. Same goes for sugar and
>starches. The amount of fruit allowed is often heavily debated here so
>thats something she is going to have to work out for herself. Juice is
>a no no though. It is important to remember that this is not a diet.
>This is a lifestyle change. Its going to be tuff going to school, away
>from home and bypassing the donut for the oatmeal(non-instant only) and
>the burger for the salad. But it isnt impossible. I take my own bread
>with me if I go to Mcdonalds. She might feel funny about this, but I
>see it as an opportunity to educate whoever is sitting near me (poor
>them).
>
>I did want to add that I am sure both of you are worried about
>fertility, and the increases risks of diabetes and all the other things
>I am sure you have now read. Where many of these things might happen,
>the emphasis is "might". Many of us here have children. I, myself have
>a 5 year old son that I got with out the use of any drugs. At 17 there
>is alot of time to get that problem resolved, if there is one. Metformin
>and spironolactone have given me back my hair and are reversing the hair
>that I used to hate to deal with on my face. Keeping insulin levels
>under control either by diet and/or insulin sensitizing drugs greatly
>reduces the risks of diabetes. The best thing you can do for her is
>give her support and educate yourself as well as encourage her to do
>likewise. Knowledge is power. Feel free to EMail me personally at the
>address below if you have any more questions. Please out something in
>the heading about PCOS though so I dont delete you as spam.
>
>At Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Faye wrote:
> >
> >Looking for some suggestions. My daughter age 17, just found out this
> >week that she has PCOS. She will be leaving home for college in 30
> >days. Big thing to find out, so close to leaving home for the first
> >time. She will start to wear the birth control patch tomorrow, and we
> >got information on a diet yesterday. I am really at a loss of what I
> >can do for her. Really looking for suggestions.
> >
> >--
> >Mom
> >
>
>--
>Email always welcome
>Janet at JanetHeller@msn.com
>
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>End of PCOS Digest 2705
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