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Re: To whoever gives the 93% stat

From: Sonnet (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:02:35 -0500 (CDT)


Kim, I replied to this a couple of days ago... scroll back and you should see a message from me from earlier in the week. It links to my original post discussing the article here, and that links to the actual article.

I'm very sorry to hear of all you've gone through. I wasn't at all trying to say that conceiving with PCOS "is just that easy" - we all know it's not, and is heart breaking! My husband and I have also been TTC for 3 years now with no success. While that's not a hugely long time, I can relate to some of the feelings of frustration and pain and loss.

Note I said this treatment was shown to successfully induce ovulation in 93% of women. That's a great statistic, it means that there's hope for a lot of women with PCOS, but it doesn't mean that EVERYONE will find success with it. There's that other 7% too.

Best of luck to you!

At Fri, 27 Sep 2002, kim wrote: >
>on getting pregnant with pcos?????
>Where are you getting this number from???
>Again, I have been trying for #1 for 15 years - don't say it isn't that hard, for some of us it is.
>We have lost 8 babies and spent close to $50,000 out of pocket - our insurance payed 80% of almost everything, we payed the rest.
>I did 5 years with clomid/injectables/sperm washes and IUI's =  a few pregnancies, all ending in m/c. I did many cycles with met and clomid yes, prgnancies but, ending again in m/c - I also had ovarian drilling 1 year ago today, so don't think we haven't been trying.
>Yet, we still have empty arms, so that is why I wanted "proof" that these are the kind of stats (93%) that your saying most women with pcos experience. I have been studying pcos and related illness for a few years now, I've never heard this
>. I have had bad symptoms since 11(weight gain, depression, skin tags,etc), dx at 19, now I am almost 34. I have live through a lot  with my struggle with pcos in the last 22 years.
>Since I have never read anything about this stat - I would like to read the info that gave you this number. Again - where did you learn this - can you post it please.
>
>      KIM(30 SOMETHING)dh SCOTT- JUST A BABE AT ONLY 30 
>

>
>DX - PCOS/IR, hyperinsulinenmeia, thyroid failure, depression, infertility with repeated m/c.
>
>7m/c's 8 babies. TTC#1 - forever!!! Last 6 straight with IF meds till May 2002. Finally O'ing with met alone!!
>

>
>Meds - Metformin 2500, synthyroid, wellbutrin, 81mg asprin, 1mg folic acid, vitamens C&E&daily.
>
>>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (lisa)
>>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
>>Subject: Re: Sonnet I think...
>>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:29:54 -0500
>>
>>At Fri, 20 Sep 2002, kim wrote:
>> >
>> >Could I get the more info (the study ar article) on the 93% chance of getting pregnant with met and clomid??? I have NEVER heard such high rates for pcos women.
>> >I have been ttc#1 for 15 years now. After 8 hard years of IF treatments I finally got pregnant (7times)each ending in m/c.
>> >I have done over 20 cycles with met and clomid - no other IF meds. I didn't get preggo once. The month after I stopped bang preggo - m/c at 7 weeks.
>> >Every one is different yes, I am still trying after all the heartbreak, time,money and energy! There are no guarentees!!!
>> >      KIM(30 SOMETHING)dh SCOTT- JUST A BABE AT ONLY 30 
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >DX - PCOS/IR, hyperinsulinenmeia, thyroid failure, depression, infertility with repeated m/c.
>> >
>> >7m/c's 8 babies. TTC#1 - forever!!! Last 6 straight with IF meds till May 2002. Finally O'ing with met alone!!
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >Meds - Metformin 2500, synthyroid, wellbutrin, 81mg asprin, 1mg folic acid, vitamens C&E&daily.
>> >
>> >>From: sonnet@pcosupport.org (Sonnet)
>> >>Reply-To: pcos@obgyn.net
>> >>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
>> >>Subject: Re: pregnancy probabilites
>> >>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:25:01 -0500
>> >>
>> >>There's no set number for "your chances" - every woman is different!
>> >>but, your chances aren't that bad. Some women with PCOS get pregnant
>> >>easily. Many need some extra help. The percentages of women who are on
>> >>Metformin for their PCOS who get pregnant are pretty good, and even
>> >>higher (up to 93%) for women who are on metformin and Clomid. Good
>> >>luck!
>> >>
>> >>At Thu, 19 Sep 2002, amy wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >I HAVE JUST BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH PCOS. I WAS SO HAPPY TO FIND OUT
>> >> >EXACTLY WHAT WAS WRONG AND TO BEGIN A TREATMENT. ....I DON'T EVEN KNOW
>> >> >WHAT THE PERCENTAGES OR PROBABILITIES ARE THAT I WILL EVER GET PREGNANT.
>> >> >DOES ANYONE KNOW?
>> >> >THANKS
>> >> >AMY
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>email always welcome: sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com
>> >>
>>
>>I am so sorry for your situation. I was diagnosed at 14 with Hormonal
>>Dysfunction by my first gyn, without any tests to substantiate her
>>diagnosis. It just seemed to fit and I was placed on BC. 14 years
>>later I officially was dx'd with PCOS. I did concieve right after my
>>diangosis, during the period of time I chose to see what I felt like off
>>BC... imagine my suprise! I am considering trying again and spoke just
>>yesterday with my obgyn who said that the medicines you mentioned would
>>up my chances of actually ovuling and allowing the follicule to come out
>>of the ovary - where it seems I run into difficulty. He said something
>>like it ups it 100%, meaning since I only menstruate fully maybe 2x a
>>year, I should get, like, four chances. I'm only going to give it one
>>year - can't bear the look my new hubby wll have to hide when the tests
>>come up inevitably negative.
>>
>>Hope things work out for you. Although this may sound cold, I don't
>>intend for it to be, but my sis was willing to carry for me, using my
>>egg and my man's sperm. Is that a consideration in your life? Gosh, I
>>hope you're ok and that things work out. My thoughts are with you.
>>

--
email always welcome: sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com



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