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Re: Diet and PCO/Was Frustrated on glucophage!! Help!From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
Hi, I am that annoymous person. I am well aware of the diets of which you speak. If you prefer I list a good program that goes along with what I am saying I suggest the McDougall Plan. I never meant to intend that every carb is the one anyone should eat. I am also aware of the Glycemic index. Not all carbs are created equally because some are simple sugars where as other are more complex in their structure and the body will obviously break them down at different rates and they will obviously affect the blood sugar and insulin levels at different rates as well. However, I do stand by the high carb, low fat and lower protein diet and I will for sure as a medical professional reccomend that to my patients without a doubt in my mind. The best carb sources are from whole foods and not the refined ones. If you eat whole foods you will find that they are generally the complex carbs that you know to be the good ones in your diet regimine. Refined carbs on the other hand are mainly the simple sugars which will enter your blood level faster and affect your insulin levels drastically as well as the fact that most of them are empty calories anyway. That isn't to say that you should never eat them though but they should be consumed moderately. I am well aware that a lot of things have been said about both diabetics and PCOS patients eating a low carb high protein diet but I am in a position where I have seen that it might do some good for awhile but the longer term results are something I wouldn't prefer for myself. I have had a doctor, a very corpulent man who happens to be a diabetic tell me that I need to accept a low carb high protein diet because I have PCOS. He said that over ten years he lost 180 pounds eating such a diet but he is still at least about 400 pounds quite honestly. He says that he never eats bread or rice or pasta and that he exercises profusely. He also has a rather sickly appearance. My thought was that if this diet is all that then why isn't he losing more weight than he has claimed to have lost in ten years and why isn't he very healthy considering all the exercise along with the diet. It doesn't really add up to me and I have seen this pattern with a good number of low carb dieters. This is besides the fact that such a diet is not natural to human beings. On the other hand when I started a high carb, low fat and lower protein diet I eat all the brown rice, whole grain pasta, and whole grain breads that I want as well as a myriad of fruits and vegetables, beans, nuts and lentils and I eat as much as I want. I no longer eat meat, poultry, fish, eggs or dairy. I am not only losing weight, full of energy, and becoming as healthy as when I was a kid but my blood tests have come back with better numbers than I had ever thought. My hormones are becoming balanced and normal and after battling infertility and menstrual irregularities I am now able to say that my husband and I have finally conceived our first child. I can also say that I do not exercise profusely because there is no need to do so. I can fairly say that everyone I have seen who have adopted this approach or similar to it has always had miraculous results. It is not a cure all and I didn't mean to say that it is but it does help one to become better and it has been a success of Dr. Mcdougall who has used nutrition to deal with diabetics and heart patients as well as patients with many other illnesses that they were able to gradually reduce their insulin and medications and many eventually no longer needed the medications. I think that it seems logical to me that this approach is not only suitable to everyone but is a very logical and the one with the least suffering and torment involved. I totally agree with the fact that no two women are affected by PCOS in the same way and we all have different and various symptoms of it and the medications used to treat us, if we opt for that sort of treatment, will vary from women to women. Nutrition on the other hand cannot be viewed in the same light...logically we are all humans and in spite of the differences such as hair and eye color and genetic predisposition to various things our bodies are designed to function in a basic way that is common in everyone. We all have been molded with the same needs for nutrients and our digestive systems all digest the same way even though some persons have more efficient metabolisms than others. We just have differences in what we like to eat and some people can't tolerate some foods that others can but there really are diets that are more ideal than others and that are suitable to everyone. I am not saying that what I claim is better than what any of you are claiming and I wouldn't say to anyone they aren't choosing the right diet because I don't agree with it. To each his own but I will add that it doesn't hurt to do a lot of research to find out for yourself about diet. Don't just look at the diet fads of today but you should also consider what were the foods that sustained people and has kept nations healthy for thousands of years? I am extremely certain though that you will find that the majority of the societies flourished soley on a high carb, low fat lower protein diet based on whole foods (because in the past they didn't have refined foods that we have today). If you look, for instance, at native tribes in the jungles of Brazil or on the Africa continent for example what do they thrive on? It wasn't all that long ago that a dentist had gone to study the effects of diet on oral hygeine in native tribes which inhabit isolated places throughout the world. This dentist found that these persons did not suffer from oral problems that we have...in fact he noted that the old people in their nineties and one hundreds still had all their teeth in great condition. He also found that these people did not have diabetes and cancer and heart disease and all the reproductive problems we seem to have. He found perfectly healthy people of all ages who thrived on a diet of whole grains, beans, nuts, vegetables and fruits as they could cultivate and consumed even animal proteins but not so often as we are accustomed to. I guess my point being that I am not just suggesting something and parroting it because it worked for me and therefore it will work for everybody. Yes it did work for me and yes it can work for everyone. I suggest it because I read and read and read and studied nutrition and diets of all types and I reflected upon history and to boot you can even learn some fabulous things about diet through your religious scriptures...I have looked at those too and of many religions and not soley the religion I practice myself. I also happened to have taken culinary classes and one of the things you learn in such a program is history of how food and the human diet has evolved. I studied present diet trends and fad diets (sorry if I offend but I have good reason to catalouge a low carb diet as a fad diet), I have studied macrobiotics, vegetarianism and veganism, raw and living foods diets, fasting, auyvedic principles and so forth. I don't feel bad in reccomending to anyone the fruits of what I learned and one only needs to go an do research for him/herself to see some of the patterns I have. I suggest the McDougall program because in this day in age it seems that most people only want to concern themselves with a quick and less complicated route of acheiving anything. We live in a fast paced society and people would rather have it all laid out for them than go and hunt things down. I am not meaning to sound accusatory and I am not accusing anyone but I am saying this seems to be a reflection of our society as a whole but not any specific members of it. McDougall program, of all the diets I have encountered and understood, is undoubtedly the best I could find to represent much of what I found in my reading. You don't have to agree with what I say and you don't even have to ever look it up. I just thought that people would find it interesting to know these sorts of things and that it is possible to get healthy without all sorts of medicines. Kindest Regards
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