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Re: Question re IR and high cholesteral levels
From: jodi (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:14:24 -0500 (CDT)
I have always had high total but hig good and ridiculously low bad as
well. Supposedly the ratio of the two is more important than the
overall total, and I know once I got something that said I was at less
than 25% the normal risk for heart attack, something like that... which
is great news since heart attacks run in my father's family. (Maybe I
got some good genes from my mother after all?)
- jodi
At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
>
>I had high total cholesterol, high triglycerdies, high bad cholesterol,
>and low good cholesterol. Yukky! After glucophage, my bads are moving
>into the good zone. As far as your question, I do not know, best to ask
>you doctor if your levels are ok.
>
>At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Jen wrote:
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>>Do you mean high cholesteral in general or high bad cholesteral? What if
>>you have a high total cholesteral but high good cholest. and low bad
>>cholest.?
>>
>>--
>>Jen
>>
>>At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
>>>
>>>CW: Thanks so much for your reply and all the information.
>>>
>>>I have some one thing that happens to me that may be related. I find
>>>that if eat lunch or dinner even an hour later than I normally do, that
>>>I get sick feeling. So, I pretty much eat those meals at the same time
>>>every day and if I cannot I make sure to have a granola bar nearby.
>>>That's the only thing though.
>>>
>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Ohhh 7.2 not 72. LOL What a difference! Yes, actually, you may be
>>>>borderline. My fasting levels were 8, 6, and 2. The fasting test is
>>>>not always accurate, because after many hours, insulin and glucose
>>>>levels sometimes level off. You may want to get an IGTT for a more
>>>>accurate reading or just try the glucophage again in a smaller dose, cut
>>>>up. Besides pcos, another warning of IR is that high cholesterol level.
>>>>How do you feel? Do you get other symptoms of IR like headaches or low
>>>>carb tolerance, etc.? Do you feel like you get ups and downs during the
>>>>day an hour or two after eating?
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry about that. My fast insulin was 7.2, Not 72. Still think
>>>>>Glucophage is needed?
>>>>>
>>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A fasting insulin level of 72 is very high. Unless this is a different
>>>>>>type of measurement than I am used to seeing. They say anything over 10
>>>>>>is a bit too high. Over 27 is definitely high. And indicates insulin
>>>>>>resistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, instance resistance can cause high cholesterol and may be the
>>>>>>reason for your high cholesterol most of your life, regardless of your
>>>>>>fitness level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An insulin sensitizing medication like glucophage (along with a low carb
>>>>>>diet) should lower your fasting insulin rate as well as your cholesterol
>>>>>>(my cholesterol dropped from 330 to 230 in just 3 months after
>>>>>>glucophage).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You may want to try glucophage again, maybe cutting the pill in half or
>>>>>>quarters, and see if it still bothers you. Give it some time to work
>>>>>>slowly. Otherwise, there are some other insulin sensitizers on the
>>>>>>market that you may be able to take that might not give you problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Insulin resistance should not be taken lightly. Even if you are able to
>>>>>>get pregnant, later on in life (i.e. after 40) many other health
>>>>>>problems can build up such as diabetes, heart disease, and nerve
>>>>>>disorders if IR is ignored. Be careful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm 32 years old. MY FSH was 2.16 mcIU/ml. My glucose, plasma was 83
>>>>>>>mg/dL
>>>>>>>My Fasting Insulin was 72 mcU/Ml. Prolactin level was 6.7 ng/mL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am 10lbs over my ideal weight. I do have high cholesterol. However,
>>>>>>>even when I was younger and in the best shape of my life, eating only
>>>>>>>low fat healthy foods, it was around the same level as it is today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We've been trying to get pregnat for about 2 years. And an ultrasound
>>>>>>>did show some PCOS-like cysts in my ovaries. I have been pregnant
>>>>>>>before, but we lost the baby at 7 weeks. I have some minor facial hair
>>>>>>>problems, that I easily take care of with wax or tweezing. I have no
>>>>>>>problems with my hair or skin whatsover.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've seen two docs about this, one (my ob/gyn) thinks I should take
>>>>>>>Glucophage, the other (fertility specialist) doesn't think my lab
>>>>>>>results warrant me taking it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I did try the glucophage. Starting off slowly with one pill a day. I
>>>>>>>never made it beyond that because it made me so sick. Now, I'm not
>>>>>>>taking it at all. I've tried Chlomid, but it kept causing me to get
>>>>>>>functional cyst. The time we got pregnant, we were actually on a break
>>>>>>>from fertility meds and charting and all that other stuff for a month
>>>>>>>(waiting for a cyst to disolve, for my next cycle to start, before
>>>>>>>starting IVF treatment).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are these lab results enough to indicate a level of PCOS that would
>>>>>>>interfere with me getting pregnant and/or maintaining a pregnancy? Is
>>>>>>>glucophage something I should really try to better tolerate and take to
>>>>>>>improve my chances?
>>
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