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Re: Question re IR and high cholesteral levels
From: cw (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:16:14 -0500 (CDT)
I had high total cholesterol, high triglycerdies, high bad cholesterol,
and low good cholesterol. Yukky! After glucophage, my bads are moving
into the good zone. As far as your question, I do not know, best to ask
you doctor if your levels are ok.
At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Jen wrote:
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>Do you mean high cholesteral in general or high bad cholesteral? What if
>you have a high total cholesteral but high good cholest. and low bad
>cholest.?
>
>--
>Jen
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>At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
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>>CW: Thanks so much for your reply and all the information.
>>
>>I have some one thing that happens to me that may be related. I find
>>that if eat lunch or dinner even an hour later than I normally do, that
>>I get sick feeling. So, I pretty much eat those meals at the same time
>>every day and if I cannot I make sure to have a granola bar nearby.
>>That's the only thing though.
>>
>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
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>>>Ohhh 7.2 not 72. LOL What a difference! Yes, actually, you may be
>>>borderline. My fasting levels were 8, 6, and 2. The fasting test is
>>>not always accurate, because after many hours, insulin and glucose
>>>levels sometimes level off. You may want to get an IGTT for a more
>>>accurate reading or just try the glucophage again in a smaller dose, cut
>>>up. Besides pcos, another warning of IR is that high cholesterol level.
>>>How do you feel? Do you get other symptoms of IR like headaches or low
>>>carb tolerance, etc.? Do you feel like you get ups and downs during the
>>>day an hour or two after eating?
>>>
>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
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>>>>Sorry about that. My fast insulin was 7.2, Not 72. Still think
>>>>Glucophage is needed?
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
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>>>>>A fasting insulin level of 72 is very high. Unless this is a different
>>>>>type of measurement than I am used to seeing. They say anything over 10
>>>>>is a bit too high. Over 27 is definitely high. And indicates insulin
>>>>>resistance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, instance resistance can cause high cholesterol and may be the
>>>>>reason for your high cholesterol most of your life, regardless of your
>>>>>fitness level.
>>>>>
>>>>>An insulin sensitizing medication like glucophage (along with a low carb
>>>>>diet) should lower your fasting insulin rate as well as your cholesterol
>>>>>(my cholesterol dropped from 330 to 230 in just 3 months after
>>>>>glucophage).
>>>>>
>>>>>You may want to try glucophage again, maybe cutting the pill in half or
>>>>>quarters, and see if it still bothers you. Give it some time to work
>>>>>slowly. Otherwise, there are some other insulin sensitizers on the
>>>>>market that you may be able to take that might not give you problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>Insulin resistance should not be taken lightly. Even if you are able to
>>>>>get pregnant, later on in life (i.e. after 40) many other health
>>>>>problems can build up such as diabetes, heart disease, and nerve
>>>>>disorders if IR is ignored. Be careful.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, lisa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm 32 years old. MY FSH was 2.16 mcIU/ml. My glucose, plasma was 83
>>>>>>mg/dL
>>>>>>My Fasting Insulin was 72 mcU/Ml. Prolactin level was 6.7 ng/mL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am 10lbs over my ideal weight. I do have high cholesterol. However,
>>>>>>even when I was younger and in the best shape of my life, eating only
>>>>>>low fat healthy foods, it was around the same level as it is today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've been trying to get pregnat for about 2 years. And an ultrasound
>>>>>>did show some PCOS-like cysts in my ovaries. I have been pregnant
>>>>>>before, but we lost the baby at 7 weeks. I have some minor facial hair
>>>>>>problems, that I easily take care of with wax or tweezing. I have no
>>>>>>problems with my hair or skin whatsover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've seen two docs about this, one (my ob/gyn) thinks I should take
>>>>>>Glucophage, the other (fertility specialist) doesn't think my lab
>>>>>>results warrant me taking it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did try the glucophage. Starting off slowly with one pill a day. I
>>>>>>never made it beyond that because it made me so sick. Now, I'm not
>>>>>>taking it at all. I've tried Chlomid, but it kept causing me to get
>>>>>>functional cyst. The time we got pregnant, we were actually on a break
>>>>>>from fertility meds and charting and all that other stuff for a month
>>>>>>(waiting for a cyst to disolve, for my next cycle to start, before
>>>>>>starting IVF treatment).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are these lab results enough to indicate a level of PCOS that would
>>>>>>interfere with me getting pregnant and/or maintaining a pregnancy? Is
>>>>>>glucophage something I should really try to better tolerate and take to
>>>>>>improve my chances?
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