Question re IR and high cholesteral levels
From: Jen (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:23:58 -0500 (CDT)
Do you mean high cholesteral in general or high bad cholesteral? What if
you have a high total cholesteral but high good cholest. and low bad
cholest.?
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Jen
At Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
>
>CW: Thanks so much for your reply and all the information.
>
>I have some one thing that happens to me that may be related. I find
>that if eat lunch or dinner even an hour later than I normally do, that
>I get sick feeling. So, I pretty much eat those meals at the same time
>every day and if I cannot I make sure to have a granola bar nearby.
>That's the only thing though.
>
>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
>>
>>Ohhh 7.2 not 72. LOL What a difference! Yes, actually, you may be
>>borderline. My fasting levels were 8, 6, and 2. The fasting test is
>>not always accurate, because after many hours, insulin and glucose
>>levels sometimes level off. You may want to get an IGTT for a more
>>accurate reading or just try the glucophage again in a smaller dose, cut
>>up. Besides pcos, another warning of IR is that high cholesterol level.
>>How do you feel? Do you get other symptoms of IR like headaches or low
>>carb tolerance, etc.? Do you feel like you get ups and downs during the
>>day an hour or two after eating?
>>
>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Lisa wrote:
>>>
>>>Sorry about that. My fast insulin was 7.2, Not 72. Still think
>>>Glucophage is needed?
>>>
>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, cw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A fasting insulin level of 72 is very high. Unless this is a different
>>>>type of measurement than I am used to seeing. They say anything over 10
>>>>is a bit too high. Over 27 is definitely high. And indicates insulin
>>>>resistance.
>>>>
>>>>Also, instance resistance can cause high cholesterol and may be the
>>>>reason for your high cholesterol most of your life, regardless of your
>>>>fitness level.
>>>>
>>>>An insulin sensitizing medication like glucophage (along with a low carb
>>>>diet) should lower your fasting insulin rate as well as your cholesterol
>>>>(my cholesterol dropped from 330 to 230 in just 3 months after
>>>>glucophage).
>>>>
>>>>You may want to try glucophage again, maybe cutting the pill in half or
>>>>quarters, and see if it still bothers you. Give it some time to work
>>>>slowly. Otherwise, there are some other insulin sensitizers on the
>>>>market that you may be able to take that might not give you problems.
>>>>
>>>>Insulin resistance should not be taken lightly. Even if you are able to
>>>>get pregnant, later on in life (i.e. after 40) many other health
>>>>problems can build up such as diabetes, heart disease, and nerve
>>>>disorders if IR is ignored. Be careful.
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 27 Jun 2002, lisa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm 32 years old. MY FSH was 2.16 mcIU/ml. My glucose, plasma was 83
>>>>>mg/dL
>>>>>My Fasting Insulin was 72 mcU/Ml. Prolactin level was 6.7 ng/mL.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am 10lbs over my ideal weight. I do have high cholesterol. However,
>>>>>even when I was younger and in the best shape of my life, eating only
>>>>>low fat healthy foods, it was around the same level as it is today.
>>>>>
>>>>>We've been trying to get pregnat for about 2 years. And an ultrasound
>>>>>did show some PCOS-like cysts in my ovaries. I have been pregnant
>>>>>before, but we lost the baby at 7 weeks. I have some minor facial hair
>>>>>problems, that I easily take care of with wax or tweezing. I have no
>>>>>problems with my hair or skin whatsover.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've seen two docs about this, one (my ob/gyn) thinks I should take
>>>>>Glucophage, the other (fertility specialist) doesn't think my lab
>>>>>results warrant me taking it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did try the glucophage. Starting off slowly with one pill a day. I
>>>>>never made it beyond that because it made me so sick. Now, I'm not
>>>>>taking it at all. I've tried Chlomid, but it kept causing me to get
>>>>>functional cyst. The time we got pregnant, we were actually on a break
>>>>>from fertility meds and charting and all that other stuff for a month
>>>>>(waiting for a cyst to disolve, for my next cycle to start, before
>>>>>starting IVF treatment).
>>>>>
>>>>>Are these lab results enough to indicate a level of PCOS that would
>>>>>interfere with me getting pregnant and/or maintaining a pregnancy? Is
>>>>>glucophage something I should really try to better tolerate and take to
>>>>>improve my chances?