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Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
Hi Linda and Anonymous,
I am also a Northern NJ native and suspect that I have PCOS. I was
reading your e-mails and I also have the really large blue veins close
to the surface. I had this for five years. My mother saw them once and
was horrified. I am not on bcps now either. Actually, I am trying to
get my doc to prescribe Metformin.
What is sclerotherapy?
At Mon, 17 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>
>Linda -
>
>I never heard of sclerotherapy...no, I'm not bcp's right now. i don't know
>where this came from. Very weird.
>
>Anonymous
>
>In a message dated 6/14/2002 11:50:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
>
>> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
>> Date:6/14/2002 11:50:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
>> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
>> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
>> Sent from the Internet
>>
>> Hi Anonymous,
>> Wow, we are neighbors. I live in the nyc area.
>> I meant having the veins fixed, thinking of sclerotherapy. Are you
>> familiar with this or thinking about it too? They're really bothering me
>> b/c I think they are getting worse. It's rainy and cold today though
>> and they are lighter. :) btw, I heard that taking bcps makes them
>> worse. Are you on any right now? I was but stopped for a couple of
>> months alreeady. I thought they would fade, but that didn't happen.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>> >
>> >Hey Linda -
>> >
>> >Yes, I live in NJ.
>> >
>> >I don't have pain, although, I do have Costrocondritis - inflamation
>> between
>> >the rib cages. The Costrochondritis is sometimes painful/sore, so I might
>> >not notice if the "blue veins" were giving me physical discomfort. My
>> legs
>> >ache everyday....I can feel small cyst-like things undereneath, but I was
>> >told it's nothing (of course, I must be imagining it). I have also been
>> >retaining water in my legs/toes/feet for several months and have recently
>> >been taking Lasix for it, which doesn't seem to really help much. Of
>> course,
>> >the humidity in NJ lately hasn't helped at all with the swelling. In
>> >additon, I have sciatica, which is a complete joy...;) The pain/lack of
>> >comfort in my legs is constant, regardless of if I am standing or
>> >sitting...although it does feel a little worse when I am sitting in my
>> office
>> >chair - I am assuming because my legs aren't up.
>> >
>> >You mention "having them fixed"...having WHAT fixed?
>> >
>> >Anonymous
>> >
>> >In a message dated 6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
>> >
>> >> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
>> >> Date:6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>> >> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
>> >> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
>> >> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
>> >> Sent from the Internet
>> >>
>> >> Hi Anonymous,
>> >> Same here. I have them across my breats too and same thing happens when
>> >> I get out of a shower, especially a hot shower and I also notice that
>> >> they get darker when the weather gets hot and humid. Do you feel any
>> >> physical discomfort? Does yor legs ache or anything , specially when
>> >> when you sit or stand too long? I am contemplating having them fixed.
>> >> btw, do you live in the new york area?
>> >>
>> >> Linda
>> >>
>> >> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Holy Cow!!! I have those same very blue veins as well. They used to
>> be
>> >> much
>> >> >much lighter...now they are so blue that you HAVE to notice them!!! I
>> >> >thought it was just me...not knowing what made them that way. I have
>> some
>> >> >right across my breasts...when I get out of the shower, they are even
>> more
>> >> >noticeable.
>> >> >
>> >> >Anonymous
>> >> >
>> >> >In a message dated 6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >> >anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?(to Belle)
>> >> >> Date:6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>> >> >> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
>> >> >> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
>> >> >> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
>> >> >> Sent from the Internet
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Belle,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So this means that if one has too much estrogen in the body, it can
>> get
>> >> >> converted into testosterone as well?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was just confused b/c when I started noticing my pcos symptoms, I
>> also
>> >> >> noticed that a lot of the veins on my arms and legs were becoming
>> >> >> visible (this didn't happen with time. it just happened like within
>> 2
>> >> >> months, which scared me), not spider veins but the larger ones that
>> are
>> >> >> deeper down than the fine spider veins that I see in older people. I
>> >> >> don't think they are varicose veins either b/c they don't
>> bulge...just
>> >> >> visible blue veins. Anyway, I heard that they can be caused by
>> excess
>> >> >> estrogen in the body. My periods also changed all of a sudden. I
>> used
>> >> >> to get irregular bleeding and when I did get my periods, they were
>> >> >> HEAVY, but it got really light all of a sudden. A couple of months
>> >> >> later, I got my hormones tested and my estrogen levels were normal
>> and I
>> >> >> had high (total and free)testosterone levels. So, I was just thought
>> >> >> maybe the estrogens in my body are being converted into
>> testosterone...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Linda
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Belle wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Testosterone and estrogen are both steroids. They are chemically
>> very
>> >> >> >similar to one another. Testosterone can be converted easily into
>> >> >> >estrogen in the fat cells. PCOS'ers do not necessarily produce too
>> >> much
>> >> >> >estrogen (but they can since there is nothing to oppose the
>> >> production).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Our bodies are a system of checks and balances. If one thing is out
>> of
>> >> >> >whack, it can affect many other things in our bodies.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >At Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Linda wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Can someone clarify for me? Read in this forum some women saying
>> that
>> >> >> >>pcos'ers are producing too much estrogen. What about the
>> testosterone
>> >> >> >>side effects? Is it too much estrogens causing the elevated
>> >> testosterone
>> >> >> >>levels? confused.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>--
>> >> >> >>Linda
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Hope this helps,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Belle
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
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