Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
From: anonymous@obgyn.net
Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:36:12 EDT
Linda -
I never heard of sclerotherapy...no, I'm not bcp's right now. i don't know
where this came from. Very weird.
Anonymous
In a message dated 6/14/2002 11:50:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
> Date:6/14/2002 11:50:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
> Sent from the Internet
>
> Hi Anonymous,
> Wow, we are neighbors. I live in the nyc area.
> I meant having the veins fixed, thinking of sclerotherapy. Are you
> familiar with this or thinking about it too? They're really bothering me
> b/c I think they are getting worse. It's rainy and cold today though
> and they are lighter. :) btw, I heard that taking bcps makes them
> worse. Are you on any right now? I was but stopped for a couple of
> months alreeady. I thought they would fade, but that didn't happen.
>
> Linda
>
> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
> >
> >Hey Linda -
> >
> >Yes, I live in NJ.
> >
> >I don't have pain, although, I do have Costrocondritis - inflamation
> between
> >the rib cages. The Costrochondritis is sometimes painful/sore, so I might
> >not notice if the "blue veins" were giving me physical discomfort. My
> legs
> >ache everyday....I can feel small cyst-like things undereneath, but I was
> >told it's nothing (of course, I must be imagining it). I have also been
> >retaining water in my legs/toes/feet for several months and have recently
> >been taking Lasix for it, which doesn't seem to really help much. Of
> course,
> >the humidity in NJ lately hasn't helped at all with the swelling. In
> >additon, I have sciatica, which is a complete joy...;) The pain/lack of
> >comfort in my legs is constant, regardless of if I am standing or
> >sitting...although it does feel a little worse when I am sitting in my
> office
> >chair - I am assuming because my legs aren't up.
> >
> >You mention "having them fixed"...having WHAT fixed?
> >
> >Anonymous
> >
> >In a message dated 6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
> >
> >> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
> >> Date:6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
> >> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
> >> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
> >> Sent from the Internet
> >>
> >> Hi Anonymous,
> >> Same here. I have them across my breats too and same thing happens when
> >> I get out of a shower, especially a hot shower and I also notice that
> >> they get darker when the weather gets hot and humid. Do you feel any
> >> physical discomfort? Does yor legs ache or anything , specially when
> >> when you sit or stand too long? I am contemplating having them fixed.
> >> btw, do you live in the new york area?
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Holy Cow!!! I have those same very blue veins as well. They used to
> be
> >> much
> >> >much lighter...now they are so blue that you HAVE to notice them!!! I
> >> >thought it was just me...not knowing what made them that way. I have
> some
> >> >right across my breasts...when I get out of the shower, they are even
> more
> >> >noticeable.
> >> >
> >> >Anonymous
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?(to Belle)
> >> >> Date:6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >> >> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
> >> >> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
> >> >> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
> >> >> Sent from the Internet
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Belle,
> >> >>
> >> >> So this means that if one has too much estrogen in the body, it can
> get
> >> >> converted into testosterone as well?
> >> >>
> >> >> I was just confused b/c when I started noticing my pcos symptoms, I
> also
> >> >> noticed that a lot of the veins on my arms and legs were becoming
> >> >> visible (this didn't happen with time. it just happened like within
> 2
> >> >> months, which scared me), not spider veins but the larger ones that
> are
> >> >> deeper down than the fine spider veins that I see in older people. I
> >> >> don't think they are varicose veins either b/c they don't
> bulge...just
> >> >> visible blue veins. Anyway, I heard that they can be caused by
> excess
> >> >> estrogen in the body. My periods also changed all of a sudden. I
> used
> >> >> to get irregular bleeding and when I did get my periods, they were
> >> >> HEAVY, but it got really light all of a sudden. A couple of months
> >> >> later, I got my hormones tested and my estrogen levels were normal
> and I
> >> >> had high (total and free)testosterone levels. So, I was just thought
> >> >> maybe the estrogens in my body are being converted into
> testosterone...
> >> >>
> >> >> Linda
> >> >>
> >> >> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Belle wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Testosterone and estrogen are both steroids. They are chemically
> very
> >> >> >similar to one another. Testosterone can be converted easily into
> >> >> >estrogen in the fat cells. PCOS'ers do not necessarily produce too
> >> much
> >> >> >estrogen (but they can since there is nothing to oppose the
> >> production).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Our bodies are a system of checks and balances. If one thing is out
> of
> >> >> >whack, it can affect many other things in our bodies.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Linda wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Can someone clarify for me? Read in this forum some women saying
> that
> >> >> >>pcos'ers are producing too much estrogen. What about the
> testosterone
> >> >> >>side effects? Is it too much estrogens causing the elevated
> >> testosterone
> >> >> >>levels? confused.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>--
> >> >> >>Linda
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Hope this helps,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Belle
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
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