Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
From: anonymous@obgyn.net
Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:23:50 EDT
Hey Linda -
Yes, I live in NJ.
I don't have pain, although, I do have Costrocondritis - inflamation between
the rib cages. The Costrochondritis is sometimes painful/sore, so I might
not notice if the "blue veins" were giving me physical discomfort. My legs
ache everyday....I can feel small cyst-like things undereneath, but I was
told it's nothing (of course, I must be imagining it). I have also been
retaining water in my legs/toes/feet for several months and have recently
been taking Lasix for it, which doesn't seem to really help much. Of course,
the humidity in NJ lately hasn't helped at all with the swelling. In
additon, I have sciatica, which is a complete joy...;) The pain/lack of
comfort in my legs is constant, regardless of if I am standing or
sitting...although it does feel a little worse when I am sitting in my office
chair - I am assuming because my legs aren't up.
You mention "having them fixed"...having WHAT fixed?
Anonymous
In a message dated 6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?
> Date:6/13/2002 3:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
> Sent from the Internet
>
> Hi Anonymous,
> Same here. I have them across my breats too and same thing happens when
> I get out of a shower, especially a hot shower and I also notice that
> they get darker when the weather gets hot and humid. Do you feel any
> physical discomfort? Does yor legs ache or anything , specially when
> when you sit or stand too long? I am contemplating having them fixed.
> btw, do you live in the new york area?
>
> Linda
>
> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
> >
> >Holy Cow!!! I have those same very blue veins as well. They used to be
> much
> >much lighter...now they are so blue that you HAVE to notice them!!! I
> >thought it was just me...not knowing what made them that way. I have some
> >right across my breasts...when I get out of the shower, they are even more
> >noticeable.
> >
> >Anonymous
> >
> >In a message dated 6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >anonymous@medispecialty.com writes:
> >
> >> Subj:Re: PCOS--too much estrogen or too much testosterone?(to Belle)
> >> Date:6/13/2002 12:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >> From:<A HREF="mailto:anonymous@medispecialty.com">anonymous@medispecialty.com</A>
> >> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@obgyn.net">pcos@obgyn.net</A>
> >> To:<A HREF="mailto:pcos@mail.medispecialty.com">pcos@mail.medispecialty.com</A>
> >> Sent from the Internet
> >>
> >> Hi Belle,
> >>
> >> So this means that if one has too much estrogen in the body, it can get
> >> converted into testosterone as well?
> >>
> >> I was just confused b/c when I started noticing my pcos symptoms, I also
> >> noticed that a lot of the veins on my arms and legs were becoming
> >> visible (this didn't happen with time. it just happened like within 2
> >> months, which scared me), not spider veins but the larger ones that are
> >> deeper down than the fine spider veins that I see in older people. I
> >> don't think they are varicose veins either b/c they don't bulge...just
> >> visible blue veins. Anyway, I heard that they can be caused by excess
> >> estrogen in the body. My periods also changed all of a sudden. I used
> >> to get irregular bleeding and when I did get my periods, they were
> >> HEAVY, but it got really light all of a sudden. A couple of months
> >> later, I got my hormones tested and my estrogen levels were normal and I
> >> had high (total and free)testosterone levels. So, I was just thought
> >> maybe the estrogens in my body are being converted into testosterone...
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> At Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Belle wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Testosterone and estrogen are both steroids. They are chemically very
> >> >similar to one another. Testosterone can be converted easily into
> >> >estrogen in the fat cells. PCOS'ers do not necessarily produce too
> much
> >> >estrogen (but they can since there is nothing to oppose the
> production).
> >> >
> >> >Our bodies are a system of checks and balances. If one thing is out of
> >> >whack, it can affect many other things in our bodies.
> >> >
> >> >At Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Linda wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Can someone clarify for me? Read in this forum some women saying that
> >> >>pcos'ers are producing too much estrogen. What about the testosterone
> >> >>side effects? Is it too much estrogens causing the elevated
> testosterone
> >> >>levels? confused.
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >>Linda
> >> >>
> >> >--
> >> >Hope this helps,
> >> >
> >> >Belle
> >> >
> >>
>
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