PCOS Messages for May, 2002: Re: Transgender M2F and body hair

Re: Transgender M2F and body hair

From: jodi (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu, 30 May 2002 09:48:47 -0500 (CDT)

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I won't laugh, I've looked up transgender hair removal related stuff as well. I also sort of know two women who were men... one was a guy/girl I went to college with, knew him when he was Mike, now he's Sarah... and one of the check out people at our local grocery store, was Wade is now Sarah... and I've thought of asking THEM how they deal with it... but I don't know them well enough. With the grocery store women it would be especially akward. "Hi, I don't know you, but I've been watching you over the years..."

One thing that I read pertaining to transgenders and hair removal is that testicular removal helps completely with the excess hair. This flies in the face of one women here saying that having her ovaries removed did nothing for the hair... unless other sources of hormones are at play with PCOS versus men. Normal healthy men probably get most of their testosterone from their tesicles whereas women with PCOS can also have adrenal issues... so removing the ovaries doesn't get rid of the problem... I don't know.

I have also read a lot of things saying that once hair goes terminal it never goes back. However, I can say without a doubt that after a year plus on glucophage, the hair under my belly button is now a non-issue and the hair on my inner thighs is a lot less disgusting. Chin hair still as bad... overall leg hair not much better... but I have seen a change in some places. The inner thighs and under my bellybotton is where the hair has been bad the longest... I really didn't have a major issue with facial hair until... oh... 99? I had occasional ones but I didn't pluck daily or carry tweezers on me at all times then... I wonder if the areas hair has been the longest are most sensitive to change - high or low - in androgens, and thus they went un-hairy first? Strange...

I don't know if there is hope for a hair PCOSer to ever be a Victoria's Secret girl in terms of body hair amount... but I think there is hope for SOME level of improvement, even more hope if you are willing to take the anti-androgens (I am not).

- jodi

At Wed, 29 May 2002, Bobbi wrote: >
>Please don't laugh but I was doing research on body hair. Most of the
>info I was about to get my hands on insists that terminal hair will not
>change and I was confused b/c some women on this site insist that
>terminal hair can change. Well, anyway, I checked out this site which
>gives info to transgender male to female individuals.
>
>http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/resources/tmf_program/tmf_program_7.asp
>
>These males are taking estrogen and antiandrogens...and the site gives
>info on what kind of results to expect. If you scroll down to the 'body
>hair' section, it says:
>
><Body Hair
>
>Depending on how hirsute (possessing hair) an individual's body may be,
>body hair will generally lessen noticeably to almost entirely over a
>period of several years. Individuals will generally notice a
>diminishment of bodily hair occurring on the extremities, and most of
>the torso. As example, arm and leg hair as well as hair on the abdomen,
>chest, and shoulders will greatly lessen and in some instances disappear
>completely. Hair growth in specific regions including that around the
>areola, armpits and pubic area will not lessen to the same extent.>
>
>Shouldn't this apply to us as well? :)
>
>--
>Bobbi
>

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