Re: Type II diabetes, be hyperinsulemic, but not have pcos?
From: Sally (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 29 May 2002 17:59:30 -0500 (CDT)
Hi Jan,
this does not make sense to me. High insulin is opposite to diabetes
where you don't have enough insulin to maintain your blood sugar stable.
On the other hand, if you have some problem with your insulin (ie. it
doesn't connect properly with cells and so can't work to reduce your
blood sugar) - I guess then that both insulin and sugar could be high.
But that is apparently what happens in PCOS. We have insulin
resistance, resulting in higher than normal insulin and poor control of
blood sugars.
Was hormone testing carried out? LH:FSH ratio? What symptoms do you
have?
Perhpas someone else will comment.
--
Sally
At Wed, 29 May 2002, Jan wrote:
>
>Can someone clarify if you can have Type II diabetes, be hyperinsulemic,
>but not have pcos?
>
>At Tue, 28 May 2002, Sonnet wrote:
>>
>>As I understand it, women with Type II diabetes are not hyperinsulemic.
>>But, I could be wrong!
>>
>>Can someone clarify for us, maybe?
>>
>>At Tue, 28 May 2002, jan wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Sonnet, thanks for the explanation, but still a little confused. I
>>>know that people with type 1 diabetes make too little insulin, but I
>>>thought people with type 2 diabetes has hyperinsulinemia too. But I
>>>don't see women with type 2 diabetes with pcos symptoms. ???
>>>
>>>At Mon, 27 May 2002, Sonnet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Jan -
>>>>
>>>>Women who are not overweight can definitely have the other symptoms. I'm
>>>>sure a lot of women on this board will say that they're in exactly that
>>>>position! Weight doesn't cause PCOS. It's just one of the symptoms you
>>>>can have. You also can eat a really good diet, low in carbs etc, and
>>>>see your PCOS get worse anyway, especially if diet is your only method
>>>>of treatment.
>>>>
>>>>Hypoglycemia is when blood sugar gets too low, you're right. IR doesn't
>>>>seem to have very many noticeable symptoms in itself. Often you'll find
>>>>women who get shaky and dizzy after eating, or other blood sugar related
>>>>feelings. Unexplained weight gain is a symptom of IR (and other
>>>>things.) I am told that skin tags are a direct symptom of IR.
>>>>
>>>>The difference between PCOS and diabetes is that women with PCOS have
>>>>hyperinsulinemia, too MUCH insulin rather than too little. In order to
>>>>keep our blood sugar normal, our pancreas has to pump out a great deal
>>>>of insulin (because a percentage of what we have doesn't work, due to
>>>>the IR.) It's that extra insulin that interacts with our ovaries and
>>>>adrenal glands and everything else and causes the hormonal problems, and
>>>>symptoms like acne and facial hair.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>At Mon, 27 May 2002, janpotter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>One thing that confuses me is whether pcos symptoms are mostly due to
>>>>>weight or too much carbs and sugars. For example, if you are thin and
>>>>>are able to maintain your body weight, but eat many carbs and sweets,
>>>>>can your symptoms get worse?
>>>>>
>>>>>hypoglycemia is when the blood sugar is too low in the body right? What
>>>>>other obvious symptoms come with insulin resistence.
>>>>>
>>>>>if pcos is based on insulin resistence, how come other women who have
>>>>>diabetes don't have problems with hair, acne...etc...?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the info
>>>>>
>>>>>Jan
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>email always welcome: sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com
>>>>
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