Re: PCOS AND CLOMID (response to anonymous)
From: Valerie (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:23:03 -0600 (CST)
Hey... whoa, wait a minute... I was not trying to say anything mean or
upsetting... I only asked you age because the older a PCOSer is the
more side effects and problems there tend to be (not that young folk
don't have plenty, I can attest to plenty since youth) I am sorry you
are upset with what I said... I was only trying to be helpful and
supportive and I wish I understood what you are upset with me for... I
never said you didn't know what a miscarraige feels like I only
commented that it is painful and that speaking personally of myself I
would do anything and everything to avoid holding my precious little
dream baby, light of my life and of all my existence dead and gone in my
hands like before, feeling like my body failed me and not knowing quite
what to do because someone I loved died and yet no one would think of
burying him or her... I DO feel for your loss of your beloved little
girl. I have some familiarity with Turners Syndrome and given that it
is so complex and underknown by even the medical profession, I can only
say that I am sure you went through alot and there are many supportive
people here who would lend you an e-ear (myself included, though I am
afraid you have already taken the stance that I am a horrible person
which I am not)Oh, well, you can misunderstand what I said- I suppose
it's your right to perceive things however you want to... nonetheless,
I still wish you all the best for a happy and healthy existence and good
luck on a good pregnancy.
--
ValerieC
At Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anonymous wrote:
>
>Valeriwe i apprecitae your concern but i do not think my age matters
>since it truely none of your business, yet if you need to know im 23 and
>married for 4 years been with hubby since i was 16. I have had one
>misscarrige before but it was not because of pcos, being i know the
>reason it happened. Plus my hubby is only 2 months away from us being
>covered under his work insurance. what I am saying is that at this
>point in time i do not have insurance i have been without insurance for
>5 months now and i hate it.i really do not appreciate you telling me
>that ii do not feel what a misscarrige is like...I lost my baby at 5
>months inutero due to turners syndrome. Plus as of right now it is not
>certian that i have pcos though i have been trying for a year and 5
>months to get pregnant. Thank you for your concern but your comments
>were diffenatlly not appreciated.
>
>At Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Valerie wrote:
>>
>>I don't know... *in my humble opinion (and I hope no one attacks me for
>>it)* Clomid is dispensed quite liberally... more liberally than
>>appropriate care... in all honesty though, (((may I ask how old you
>>are? just out of curiousity)))you are taking a big risk trying to get
>>pregnant with no medical net to fall to... PCOSufferers have alot of
>>miscarraiges due to low progesterone levels and if they do not cover lab
>>work, you'll never be able to be sure if your progesterone is too low
>>(and you never answered my question about taking Metformin or Glucophage
>>so just to let you know, studies have shown that Met/Gluc are beneficial
>>through the first trimester, and lower the percentage of miscarraiges in
>>PCOSers, plus it makes the Clomid work much more effectively in us)...
>>and as an individual who has had a miscarraige please just let me tell
>>you that it is 10 times as painful as waiting a little while... it
>>wreeks havoc on your mind, body, emotions, etc... so even if they'll
>>write you a script for Clomid, I'd be leary of jumping into it now
>>because the landing may really hurt....... as far as insurance, is it
>>an option to get it through your work or your hubbies work? A group plan
>>has much more difficulty in refusing you than an individual purchase
>>plan... but I do believe that if you look hard enough you'll be able to
>>find an individual plan that will take you, PCOSufferer or not........
>>
>>--
>>ValerieC
>>
>>At Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anonymous wrote:
>>>
>>>Well see, I do go to a clinic were they offer charity crae for people
>>>without insurance. They don't cover most lab work which sounds retarted
>>>to me., though i am currently looking for a insurance company, im afraid
>>>no one will accep t me cause of pcos. What i want to know is do you
>>>think my doc will give me the clomid nomatter what? I don't care about
>>>the cost of the pills, im just worried about getting them.
>>>
>>>At Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Valerie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmm... ultrasounds don't always spot PCOS... PCOS is a syndrome and
>>>>therefore you *can* have many different mainifestations... you may or
>>>>may not actually have cysts (mis-named condition now that they know more
>>>>about it) Clomid in and of itself is going to be costly... if I knew
>>>>where you live I might be able to try to help point you in the direction
>>>>of a place that could do your bloodwork so you'll have a better idea
>>>>what you're dealing with. As for other methods of money conservation
>>>>sans insurance, you may even be able to get Glucophage / Metformin
>>>>through a program OR (OY... hope I don't start another war by saying
>>>>this) maybe even get it in Mexico. Clomid may or may not help you if
>>>>you indeed have PCOS...Gluc/Met in combonation with Clomid is a closer
>>>>to guaranteed ticket. (P.S. if you are having problems navigating
>>>>without insurance, have you located pre-natal and childrens resources
>>>>for when you do get pregnant?)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>ValerieC
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 2 Apr 2002, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, I recently found out I may have pcos. I am not sure yet because i
>>>>>can not afford the blood work. But i will be getting an ultrasound for
>>>>>it, my next visit which is april 4 2002. I am very concerened because i
>>>>>was praying for clomid this month after trying for 1 year and 5 months
>>>>>of trying to have a baby. Also i could not afford the seemen analysis.
>>>>>Is it possible the doctor will give me the clomid without these other
>>>>>tests? Or will I just be silly to go to this coming doctors apt? Last
>>>>>time i was there she said that i would get the ultrasound next time and
>>>>>also start clomid. Do you think this offer will still stand? I have no
>>>>>insurance and am very worried that this will hurt my pocket baddly, i
>>>>>have been very upset about this. please right back soon.
>>>>