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Re: Any views on(aggghh)...Amaroli! For Renee....Your opinion?

From: Barbra (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Mon, 4 Mar 2002 05:54:42 -0600 (CST)


At Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Renee wrote: >

Despite the paucity of modern scientific substantiation, there is some common-sense evidence that explains why some of these beliefs exist. Let's start with using urine to sterilize and cleanse wounds. Remember a major component of urine is urea. Urea is commonly recognized as an effective antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral agent. Its mechanism is simple. The presence of urea in the urine is the result of the body's chemical balancing of sodium chloride and water ratio. When used on a wound, urea causes an osmotic imbalance that kills bacteria and fungus. It is so effective it is used in many topical ointments and creams sold pharmaceutically, both prescription and over-the-counter. Urea is found in a broad range of medicines used to treat inflammation. It is a main ingredient in the medicine Herpigon, used to treat herpes infections. Urine also can smooth and moisturize the skin. Your face cream or wrinkle remover most likely has urea or a derivative in it. Check out the ingredients. Each time you use it you are effectively smearing urine on your face. According to John Armstrong's 1971 book, The Water of Life, expensive and elegant European facial soaps often contain human, cow or pig urine. Historical anecdotes have said that drinking urine can prevent strokes and help break down blood clots and scabs. This lore was applied when investigators in the nineteenth century found that some component of urine could digest proteins, specifically fibrin, the key in clotting. In 1952, G.W. Sobel isolated the enzyme in urine that the folk lore claimed. He named it urokinase and it is now used in preparations to break up clots in heart disease and stroke. Apparently folk lore was right. Did modern medicine make it better or just more expensive? Certainly it's easier to sell.

How do you make a hormone? Urine contains a number of different hormones. Fertility drugs contain estrogens from human urine that stimulate ovulation in women and sperm production in men. Maybe the Zimbabwean tribe that drinks baboon urine in beer as an aphrodisiac has reason to do so. (I'll stick to a scotch and soda.) If you're taking Premarin, it's prepared from mares' urine and other natural sources, including human. Several references recommend drinking urine for sleeplessness. And it's a well-known fact now that melatonin is a natural hormone that helps regulate sleep. So guess what? Melatonin is present in significant amounts in the urine, especially morning urine. And not only melatonin is present. There is a compound known as muramyl dipeptide. Simply put, it mirrors the action of seratonin, another well-known calming hormone. These may explain why Vedic texts recommend that yogis practice amaroli to enhance the ability to meditate more deeply. Often there are broad, sweeping claims made by proponents of almost every therapeutic modality. To entertain the possibility that urine therapy can cure everything from canker sores to cancer seems to be one of those claims. There is no therapy, massage therapy to chemotherapy, aromatherapy to heart surgery, that can hope to meet claims of 100 percent success. And honestly, I don't think most proponents of urine therapy intend such claims. But despite the first impression that the Western mind often has of seeing the modern practice of amaroli as antiquated at least and revolting at most, its value need not be dismissed out-of-hand. There is plenty of information on the internet about urotherapy. Not all of it is placed there by people trying to sell a product. After all, the best source is one's own "cistern" according to the Bible. Whether it's the ingestion of urine or its topical application, there seems to be scientific reason, if not scientific testing, that says it makes sense. The best advice is the advice you can give yourself. Know it exists. Find out more about it. Make your own decisions. >Barbara,
>
>Not knowing what Amaroli is, I looked it up. I'm not going to say anything
>about your choice to pursue this treatment (other than the fact that, as you
>said, in homeopathy, there are no molecules of the substance present, just
>"magically charged water") It's your choice.
>
>My concern is following statement:
><<What is the best remedy for a skin cut or wound?That's a hint!>>
>
>You feel that this substance is an acceptable treatment for a skin wound? As
>a board certified wound care specialist, I have to disagree. We want to keep
>wounds clean, infection free, free of dead tissue, keep it at a warm healing
>temperature, and promote a moist wound environment (not too wet, not too dry)
>with the right pH to allow the body to do what it needs to do. Of course,
>none of this works if the person is malnourished, the root cause of the wound
>(there are many, many possible causes) is not addressed, or there are other
>physiological problems affecting the person.
>
>Why do you say this is the best treatment for wounds? I have only ever seen it
>create wounds, worsen existing wounds, and cause other skin problems (when
>used topically, not injested, of course).
>
>Renee
>
>--
>Renee Cordrey, MSPT, MPH, CWS
>
>---
>
>Don't follow in the footsteps of the masters. Seek what they sought.
> --Zen saying
>

--
Gentle hugs to all,
Barbra Camara



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