Re: Hot flashes.....sweating for no apparant reason,adversion to heat...
From: Barbra (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:21:01 -0600 (CST)
Dear Kimberly,
I want to thank you so much for your info.
I went to the sites and learned alot.
I posted a message to you earlier,but seem to be having some
difficulites getting my posts on the forum.
I won't go into detail,but you hit the nail on the head.
I read the posts and certainly explains why a woman,at the time,at age
38,would have early signs of heart failure.I am worried that this is
eventually going to take it's toll on my heart.
My resting beat is usually 120.Now,talk some sense to my doctors.
Funny thing too,I read that they give propranol to people with
hyperthyroid and I was on that,and I got worse with my heart.
This was very encouraging and somehow,leads me to believe that possibly
this is definitely a thyroid abnormality.
They sure have checked this gland over and over again.
Think it's time I become more assertive and seek out someone who
specializes in thyroid abnormalities.
I have velvety skin,fine tremour sometimes on my hands,,not shakes,but
the doctor has placed a fine piece of tissue over my hands at times and
they vibtate...that is surely indicitive of hyper..other times,it is not
visible.
I am so overwhemed that not one doctor has looked into this
further.Today,I had my thyroid tests done again,asked the doctor if they
could be fluctuating and he said "unlikely",I tend to think not.
Upper normal is suggestive of hyperthyroidism.
On my way to get more informed and assertive for my next appointment.
I thank you so very much,as I never found a site as interesting as that
one.
It also does show the yoga that I do,,,,very interesting,as this is the
only thing that relaxes me.
Your so correct,I need to research on my own.
God bless you!
>
>Barbra, Normal is relative. What is normal for you might not be for
>someone else. This is why research on your own is important. Your
>bloodtests might be 'normal' to the dr. that is looking at them - but
>he might not have had the right tests done, or your thyroid might have
>been functioning properly on the day you went. That is not my point. My
>point is that you seem to have a HUGE amount of symptoms that are
>concurrant with thyroid disease, and if this is true you could easily
>fix the problem without any bizarre medical undertakings or further
>testing. YOU COULD HAVE RELIEF QUICKLY! But if your dr. is not a
>specialist in thyroid he might just be missing it.
>
>You NEED to go to http://www.thyroid.about.com and learn a little more. Just a
>few symptoms that I think apply to you:
>
>Skipping heartbeats/palpitations
>unusually fast pulse, even when sleeping or resting
>Feeling hot when other people feel cold - feeling inappropriately hot
>Increased perspiration
>lots of nervous energy that you want to burn off
>diarrhea or loose or more frequent bowel movements
>feeling nervous or irritable
>muscle weakness
>fatigue
>course, brittle hair that could be falling out
>aches in joints, general pain
>irregular menstrual cycle
>trouble conceiving
>depression
>feeling restless, anxious
>puffiness or swelling around eyes and face
>more frequent infections that last longer
>eye sensitivity to light
>
>These are only a few of the major symptoms of Graves
>disease(hyperthyroidism)and you seem to have the majority of them and
>they seem to be causing you intense stress. As I said in a previous
>post, your body can fluctuate between hypo and hyper - and that is why
>you may be feeling cold at times. So don't discount these symtoms
>because you don't feel them ALL the time.
>
>There is so much info to be had at the website I suggested at about.com
>- and especially an area that explains the thyroid tests and what to do
>if you have many of these symptoms but your dr. is failing to diagnose
>you.(which is actually common)
>
>There is also an article concerning kelp on the sight that you might be
>interested in.
>
>Arm yourself with info so you can get better quickly. (also, as many of
>these symptoms are similiar to PCOS, you might not even have that - as
>you said you were not positive that you do have it)
>
>Having Lupus also puts you at higher risk for Graves disease.
>
>Also, there is a FABULOUS autoimmune checklist on about.com that asks
>many many questions and then suggests what conditions my be causing the
>symptoms. I'm not sure where on the site it is at (it's in the thyroid
>section somewhere), but I think it is called autoimmune checklist or
>something similiar. If you have one autoimmune disease (such as lupus)
>you are at increased risk for All autoimmune diseases (such as
>thyroid)so it's important to know what symptoms to look out for.
>
>Hope this helps you. It truly hurts me to see you suffering so -
>especially when I think there is hope for you that will alleviate a
>large majority of you most bothersome symptoms - if indeed you do have
>thyroid disease.
>Kimberly
>
>At Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Barbra wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kimberly,
>>I am sorry,I don't understand what you mean.
>>What is normal?
>>They still are doing further investigations on my thyroid,actually
>>today,I went in for more thyroid tests,but just bloodwork again.No
>>thyroid scan has been mentioned to me.I am sick and tired of getting
>>these tests done repeatedly.
>>It is the same old,same old tests done over and over again.
>>My body temperatures are EXTREME!
>>I am HOT,then COLD.When I am cold,my feet are purplish,as they were
>>today at the doctor's office....then when warm,my feet are burning
>>red.The same is in my legs,but again,only when they are down.This is
>>strange.They still say it is raynauds phenomena and my doctor went into
>>great detail about that today with me.It is one symptom of lupus.I still
>>disagree with him,and clearly he can see that I don't fit with the
>>classical symptoms of Raynauds.Mine never blanch and turn white,as they
>>do with others with this syndrome.Others with this syndrome have
>>purplish or red colors to their hands and fingers as well,but does not
>>matter whether their legs are up or down.Mine will just be that color
>>when down.This is stressing me out to say the least.Not only are they
>>discolored when I stand,but hurt.My hands will also turn red when they
>>are warm,and I mean RED,but never purple.
>>I did try something else last night....I ate carbs before retiring and I
>>was still freezing this morning,so,I don't know now if this is carb
>>related for me.I also ate pasta for the first time in ages and it didn't
>>bother me heatwise at all.I guess I am the Puzzle and will remain
>>so,till they find out what is causing this for me.
>>I am trying to find a pattern,as I tried the last week to keep the
>>thermostat in my house untouched.I still get icy cold for no reason and
>>then boiling hot for no reason.
>>It is almost feeling as if I have a bad flu with the temps,as when I am
>>cold,I am shaking cold.When I am hot,I cannnot cool off as I once was
>>able to do.I mean that I cannot perspire sometimes to cool me off,only
>>after a shower,that is when I will sweat bullets,then later will freeze.
>>
>>I watched a very interesting show on Oprah yesterday,she had women on
>>that were complaining of symptoms much the same as mine,and Oprah as
>>well.ICy cold ,then hot,,apparantly these women get these heart palps
>>out of the blue too,,have seen dozens of specialists who don't know
>>what's going on,then only to find that they are actually
>>pre-menopausal.They have the alternating heat and cold...they are also
>>in their thirties.Makes one wonder.
>>Thanks for your input!
>>>I suggested further investigation into the thyroid not because of the
>>>heat, but because of the alternating cold and heat together. these do
>>>not sound like hot flashes - and it's sounds as if a NORMAL body temp.
>>>feeling is not common, regardless of what has been eaten.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Barbra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Renee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Barbara,
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand how you feel. For me, it was completely carb related. When I ate
>>>>>carbs, I got really hot, radiating like you said. Now that I have severely
>>>>>limited my carbs, I only get it when I miss a snack, or in the morning before
>>>>>I get up (if I haven't been tightly controlled in the recent days).
>>>>>
>>>>>Renee
>>>>>
>>>>Renee,
>>>>Maybe it can be carb related to me as well.
>>>>I just took the opportunity to read thru some of your posts that I had
>>>>missed about the hot spells.
>>>>In one post,you speak of that ,if you are warm enough to cuddle in the
>>>>morning that you are well controlled.Are you saying that you will awake
>>>>warm if your diet isn't well controlled?
>>>>I find that too,but didn't really think that the carbs could make me so
>>>>hot upon waking.
>>>>Yesterday,I basically ate total protein...carbs were only some
>>>>strawberries and broccoli,cauliflower,lots of celery.
>>>>
>>>>I ate a piece of cheese before retiring,and I awoke chilly,which was
>>>>always the way I used to awake.It could be that I am cheating,as I tend
>>>>to shake for something sweet in the evenings after doing yoga.I actually
>>>>shake for a fix of sugar...a piece of chocolate or a
>>>>cookie...sometimes,I am really bad and eat more than I wish to tell.I
>>>>find this strange,as after yoga,my body is relaxed and normal
>>>>temperature..no sweating with the yoga and I do it for an hour
>>>>faithfully every night before going to bed,and I really get hungary for
>>>>something sweet.I have the carb...feel better,but awake hot.The complete
>>>>opposite happened upon waking today...I am cold...at least I can be
>>>>cuddly.
>>>>So,off to take a shower and see how well I can manage not perspiring
>>>>after I am finished,so that at least I can feel that I don't need
>>>>another one.
>>>>
>>>>I have to ask a silly question here,that I may be wrong about the way
>>>>that I post what I THINK may be true,but would appreciate your advice on
>>>>the subject.
>>>>
>>>>Isn't it true that body temperatures do fluctuate even with normal
>>>>people?
>>>>To my knowledge,(please correct me if I am wrong),you awake with a lower
>>>>body temperature(means you should be cool upon waking),and usually the
>>>>body temp peaks after being awake for 10 hours and then should go down
>>>>again before going to sleep?
>>>>
>>>>When being a so called "Normal" person,that was the way it was for me.
>>>>I was always chilled upon waking...felt good,as I could snuggle into a
>>>>cozy robe and have warm cup of coffee or tea,then shower and feel
>>>>great....body temp would be normal all day...of course doing alot of
>>>>walking as I did with my former position as a general manager for a
>>>>jewellery chain store;and always on the move,I was a normal warm.Then
>>>>just before it would be my bed time,I would again feel chilled and
>>>>snuggle under the covers and drift into a normal,uninterrupted sleep.
>>>>
>>>>The radiating heat is really unbelievable,as my husband says I feel like
>>>>a hot element on our stove,radiating heat....jokingly saying that I can
>>>>heat the kettle myself....haha to him!
>>>>
>>>>Also,if you don't mind me asking your advice on the kelp.
>>>>What is you opinion on me taking kelp in my multi vitamin/mineral
>>>>complex?It is only ten mg.
>>>>Thanks again for always responding.
>>>>Barbra
>>>>
>>>>>Barbra Camara wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> I just want to know how many suffer hot flashes,sweating and adversion
>>>>>> to warmth..and then go completely opposite for a week or so and be icy
>>>>>> cold?
>>>>>> I am talking that you can actually feel the heat radiating from my
>>>>>> body...I can be my husband's electric heating blanket!And to think that
>>>>>> just ten years ago we had a water bed that I loved,as it was so warm and
>>>>>> cuddly.Ahh...miss being able to like being warm and cozy.
>>>>>> No matter what,I cannot seem to regulate my body thermostat and that is
>>>>>> certainly taking the toll on my heating bills,not to mention that my
>>>>>> husband already doesn't know what the heck is going on with the temps in
>>>>>> the house,as I keep fiddling with the thermostat all day long and asking
>>>>>> him:"are you hot"?
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Renee Cordrey, MSPT, MPH, CWS
>>>>>
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't follow in the footsteps of the masters. Seek what they sought.
>>>>> --Zen saying
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>Barbra Camara
>>>>
>>--
>>Sincerely,
>>Barbra Camara
>>
--
Sincerely,
Barbra Camara
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