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Re: WebMD - Insulin Pill Fights Obesity
From: Alicia (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:48:18 -0600 (CST)
The entire thing confuses me, I have never been tested for IR.... I
know once I went through this things that they would poke my finger and
take the blood before each meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) They thought
I was diebetic because I got this HORRIBLE rash one year. Test results
were fine so I don't know. It is frusterating. Now I thought it was a
bad thing when your body had too much insulin. SO why add more
insulin???? I eat all the time regardless if I am hungry or not. I do
not really feel a " Sugar High or rush" then again I am not sure. I do
know that when I first tried the Atkins diet in the beginning I was
crawling up the walls. I was one PISSED Off PCOS person because I
wanted my bread and sweats. After a week I was not tripping as much but
I never really felt satisfied with the protein deal. I LOVE MEAT but I
was full, yet not satisfied , not really crazy craving but almost
borderline depressed. I was not able to stay on the Atkins diet. I got
to depressed, I constantly ate (not because I was hungry)like every diet
I have done I felt like I was punishing myself. So that is why I am
confused I thought the object of low carb high protein was so our bodies
would not produce so much insulin, I do not get this article.
Thanks Alicia
At Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Belle wrote:
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>They gave the insulin initally to see if it would be beneficial, they
>developed the pill because that is the only way it would be used by the
>masses. No one likes shots. I know I hate mine (not insulin but an
>inter-muscular injection for another malady).
>
>There is a theory that if people who are IR get enough insulin from the
>beginning, the pancreas would not have to work so hard to pump enough
>out. We have a "trigger" that tells us when we are full. People who
>are IR never reach that point where the trigger goes off telling us to
>stop eating. Added insulin would help with that. The insulin in our
>system would take care of all of the "fuel" without the time delay of
>the pancreas. We have seen from our IGTTs (Insulin and Glucose
>Tolerance Test) that it may take 2 or 3 (or more) hours before our
>glucose returns to a normal reading. This would not happen if we had
>the insulin ready for use to overcome the cell. Less food, less sugar
>that can be converted to fat.
>
>More importantly for us is that we do not end up putting out TOO much
>insulin. You know those days (before low carbing) when you would eat
>breakfast and get a sugar high, then you would be hungry in two hours?
>This is because you body has put out insulin in response to the glucose
>in you system and TOO much glucose was taken out of the bloodstream,
>creating a hunger. If we had the insulin already there, we could more
>easily regulate our bloodsugar levels. Again, less food that can be
>converted to fat.
>
>This is the same principle that *may* cause people to loose weight on
>Glucophage. If you are able to use the "fuel" that you give your body,
>and use it efficiently, you would not need as much.
>
>I want to be perfectly clear that I am not saying that all women who are
>IR overeat. I know that I watched my intake very carefully and went
>around feeling hungry much of the time and still I gained weight. I
>also know that I had low bloodsugar to go along with my weight. Iam
>sure all of that *extra* glucose that was taken out of my system by my
>insulin was used for fat!!! :-)
>
>Does this make sense? It is very late here and I am not sure I am using
>complete sentences. :-)
>
>At Sun, 03 Feb 2002, Renee wrote:
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>>I read the article. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They gave an
>>insulin-like substance (first they did insulin) to IR overweight rats. They
>>found the rats ate less and lost weight.
>>
>>This seems contrary to what my understanding is. With IR, you have too much
>>insulin floating around. The extra insulin converts blood sugar to fat, as
>>well as the other hormonal effects we experience. Why would giving insulin or
>>an insulin-like substance to someone with too much insulin help?
>>
>>Does this make sense to anyone else?
>>
>>Renee
>
>--
>Hope this helps,
>
>Belle
>
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Alicia
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