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Re: aaagh! confusion over how hormones + insulin all affect each otherFrom: Barbra (anonymous@obgyn.net)Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:48:34 -0600 (CST)
At Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Sonnet wrote: > >Anne, this is another clip from that article: > >"Based upon the available data at this time, it appears that in some >women, androgen disorders start out as an abnormality in adrenal >function. The adrenal gland produces increased amounts of androgen >either at puberty or at some time later in life due to significant >stress. The adrenal gland produces increased androgen if the woman has >been born with one of the adrenal enzyme deficiencies. In some women >the problem remains isolated to the adrenal gland. These women show >clinical evidence of increased androgen production with hirsutism and/or >acne but they often do not show any alteration in menstrual function and >are often normally fertile. > >In other women, the increased adrenal androgens affect the normal growth >of the follicles in the ovary. They prevent the eggs from developing >normally and halt the growth of the follicle. As I have pointed out, >under these circumstances, the egg dies and the follicle is no longer >able to produce adequate amounts of estrogen but does continue to >produce significant amounts of androgen. Therefore, by the time the >woman appears in the office for evaluation, she no longer has a simple >adrenal problem nor does she have a purely ovarian disorder. Rather, >she has a combined problem with increased androgen production from both >the ovary and the adrenal and, if she is overweight, with a substantial >contribution from her body fat." > >It's basically saying that in some women, although the IR is a major >part of the PCOS, it can start as a problem with the adrenals producing >too much male hormone. I think :) > >At Mon, 10 Dec 2001, anne wrote: >> >>Sonnet, >> >>In regards to the article you reference and adrenal abnormalities what >>type of abnormalites? >> >>Thanks >> >>Anne >> >-- >Sonnet Fitzgerald, PCOS Association, Online Community Liaison. Email: sonnet@pcosupport.org > Dear Sonnet, This was so informative for me. Thanks a bunch! In my teens,I suffered from horrible acne,,,on my face,chest,back,and upper shoulders.I also started menses at age 10.I had pubic hair growth at the same age that I was soooo embarressed to let anyone in my gym clasees see. My mother wouldn't hear of me shaving at that age.I seemed to be so over developed by age ten.actually,I now see some distinct patterns here. I was also built more husky,muscular than the other teenie weenie kids in my class.I often thought that I looked and had the body more of the boys in my class,rather than the petite little girls. At the ripe old age of 13...lol!,I was 5'2" and stayed that way all my life. The acne continued till I was in my late twenties,,,but more or less flare upsss related with my menstral cycle, I had the acne on my chest,back and shoulders till age 28.This was awful for me,as I never got to wear any backless or strapless apparell....I was so self conscious. I went to several dermatologists that kept writing me prescriptions for tetracycline over the years,which helped for the first bit,,then,was a complete waste of time,money and my eyes became so sensitive to light...till this day. Also,so many oral preparations,that my skin peeled,yet still had the acne,,actually,excaberated the acne. I had the hairloss at age sixteen and brought it to my family doctor's attention,who just overlooked it. My mom thought this was normal. Then the horrible period cramps...diagnosed with endometrosis....had a D&C...corrected the heavy bleeding and ended the acne and hairloss. I was always known to be a so called "stressed out" individual,never knowing what it was like to relax...even as a child. I suspect now,that possibly my bouts of activity and then mono every ten years(that is what my doc said),was attributed to lack of rest and college,etc. I suffered glandular fevers on and off thruout my teens and mid twenties. This was stressful for me.Re-cooperating from the mononucleosis over and over again.Was told lately,that mono only comes once in a life time,but the virus lays dormant in the system,therefore showing positive for mono for the rest of your life,,,this I am still uncertain,as I have read many articles on mono. I had bouts and bouts of anxiety over the years,that I assumed were a direct cause from my careers and continuing education. This gives me more insight to look into,as I have really high levels of adrenaline....but never once did my family doctor of twenty years test me for adrenaline activity,but always made sure he had his receptionist call me in every six months for a thyroid test.He must have suspected something. He was always asking me if I had any heart palps...at the time,,I said "NO"...but extremely punchy and jumpy and always felt that I HAD TO BE ON THE MOVE...AS IF EVEN WHEN I WAS SITTING WATCHING A MOVIE..I FELT I WAS ALL WOUUND UP,AS IF DOING MY AEROBICS. That is why I resorted to working out on a regular basis....to help get rid of the excess adrenaline surges that I was probably experiencing,although,I assumed I was NORMAL!ha!Back then,it worked for me,,,not now! Okay,,possibly this puzzle is slowly fitting together. I have excessive androgen production(wish I had the numbers here,,I will get copies from my doc),and the high levels of DHEA"S..again...don't have the numbers in front of me.I am certainly going to get them. Endo said that I was producing the androgen from my ovaries,,but refused to prescribe me anything,as i don't have the acne,hirtuism,some type of stretch marks(she called it something),and she didn't feel that my abdomen was swollen. Only thing that I am on for IR is chromium+vanadium...alot of doctors here prefer natural treatment with mild to moderate IR...this,I also find confusing after reading all the posts from other women all over the world.Surely,Canada is not in the Prehistoric content of the globe...lol!...then again..probably just the doctors that I SEE>>>since I am such a mystery.....so awful being called "the puzzle"..they actually try and humour me by calling me that,and I don't find any humour in that at all.A positve diagnosis with some help from meds,would sure be a blessing in disguise.I truly feel incapaciated by my limitations and anxiety. But,also,I am producing 'natural growth hormone'....believe this or not...that is what my doc says...I have grown two and a half inches over the last year and a half and my BMI(body mass index),is that of an athlete,despite the fact that for three years,I was bed ridden and diagnosed as having muscle atrophy and the anorexia and bulemia diagnosis. I was always a normal 125 or so pounds,,,then dropped to about say,the lowest,being 75 lbs.Then after these homeopathic meds..I started to gain weight,,,but actually more muscle. Now,I am a whopping 160...5'4"...and am not considered heavy at all and don't look that weight,accept when that ole belly of mine decides to make me look pregnant.At a docs visit...about seven months ago...an elderly lady asked me "when are you due"?That gave me a complex. So,that is my story...go and figure that one out..lol! So I have alot of these hormonal problems,,but no longer have the acne and others.Don't you find this strange? Now,I get this diagnosis......possibly was PCOS all my life,as I suffered panic attacks.....they would hit me where I would feel so overwhelmed and unreal at times.Again,told "stress".I lived and am living with it till this day. If only for once,I could experience what it is like to be able to sit and watch a movie with my husband and feel "peace". I am way,way better anxiety wise than I was a few years ago...but the constant surges...Of this adrenaline,,I suppose..day and night,,,night and day. Also,I was nighsweating alot.That stopped...but around the time my period is due,I get them.I have an adversion to temperatures as well.Sometimes I am sooo cold..despite it is hot..other times,the opposite and this ole thermostate gets a work out over here. After aerobicc and some light weight bearing exercise,,,I feel more wound up than ever.Only thing that seems to work for me is :YOGA..despite,I force myself to work out. I feel more stressed after the work-out than I did prior to it.Belive me..it is not easy for me to work out...this is like min-work-outs for me,for as long as I can breath! Ever here of that. THought this exercise thing was supposed to release the natural calming hormone called " ca't remember the name..is it,melanomin?,hmmmm.doesn't work for me. Dance seems to help..as music calms me. Guess,whatever works,right? Well,Thanks once again for listening....I really needed to get this all out of my system....... I am making it a priority to finally get educated with this illness,so that I can walk into my new specialist's office with some literature,as to show him that I know about this syndrome,and that I want help.I need some relief from this. It is like being like on constant guard day and night....like when you are alone and it is three in the morning and the doorbell rings and you get that fight or flight syndrome.All the time for this ole gal!Possibly the pulsating thing that I feel,may well be adrenaline surging thru my blood....who knows,,,like all pumped up and can feel the activity of blood beating thru my ab down to my feet.....you cannot imagine what it feels like and the only diagnosis that I get for that is that it is not blood pressure...but,rather,[pressure pulse],where my diastolic and systolic vary more than 40 apart...eg,120/55,or 180/55 ....I never heard of it and am trying to research to no avail.No-one can explain it to me,doctors feel the pulsating....visible to the naked eye in my ab...but you and no-one else accept one member that wrote me privately,telling me that a friend of her's had the exact same symptoms,but was doubled over in bed.That is not the case here...I feel no pain(knock on wood).Just total discomfort that drives me crazy. Funny,hey,I would now rather have the acne and hairloss than this,,anyday! How things have a way of changing and if only I knew then what I know now.... Well,is almost four a.m...gotta get the yoga stretches in to get at least a bit of rest.......cross your fingers that tomorrow will be better for me! God only knows. Thanks again,Sonnet,,for just taking the time to read this post...means alot to me. God bless you and yours!
-- Sincerely, Barbra Camara
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