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Re: All those taking Metformin .........
From: TJ (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:25:13 -0600 (CST)
Thanks so much for responding! You guys made me hopeful - I really
needed that! Now I'm anxious to start..
Thanks again,
Tracy
At Wed, 28 Nov 2001, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
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>Hi Tracy,
>
>Good luck with the Met. Just remember you may not have gastric symptoms
>taking it. SO wait and see. I have severe gastritis and take prevacid
>daily and really have problems if I stop it, or even with it if I eat
>the 'wrong' foods. But I have no side effects from met - not even a
>vague sign.
>
>That said, I don't know if the met helps me yet or not (Been doing it
>for about 4 months now). Perhaps because I am also taking Diane 35 so
>can't tell if I would be 'fertile' or not - and that also theoretically
>affects the crazy forest. What a good way to describe it! LOL! Though I
>haven't seen any affect on the hair except that the chin hair is growing
>slower. Am losing weight - but that could be the thyroid meds, or also
>the relatively strict low carbing.
>
>Best wishes and good luck
>
>Sally
>
>. At Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Melanie wrote:
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>>Hi Tracy
>>Has your doc done regualr day 21 and 28 bolld test to confirm that you
>>are ovulating/ Its just that my cycle seemed relitively regualar and my
>>doc decided to do some blood tests o check i was ovulating only to find
>>that all 5 months that i had blood tests for i did not ovulate once even
>>though my cycle seemed regular, hence me now being on met, plus he feels
>>that as i was so down about weight that it would help me menatally as
>>well as physically. And it has, i suffer from IBS symptoms, so he
>>perscribed an antacid twics a day and to be honest the gastro problems
>>are a mall price to pay for the weight loss and feeling of finally being
>>in controll of my boday and destiny. I ahve found that mt tummy and
>>bikini forest seems to be thinning slightly as well. It can also help
>>imporve fertility, so you have a strong pro met case.
>>
>>Good luck and take care
>>
>>Mel
>>
>>At Tue, 27 Nov 2001, TJ wrote:
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>>>Hi Jodi,
>>>
>>>Your numbers are an exact match to mine, exept I got an extra 34 lb on
>>>ya! Did you experience weight loss with Met? See, I guess since my case
>>>is "mild" my Endo didn't want to give me the Met. I get my period every
>>>35-42 days, no visible facial hair but hair on my tum and on my boob,
>>>and I have an insane bikini "line" (hahhaha.. that just cracks me up..
>>>more like bikini "forest"). The oily skin I could definitely do
>>>without, but I'll live with it for now. I DO however have colitis that
>>>is kind of flaring up these days. She didn't really want to give it to
>>>me because of the possible gastro effects; she thought the possibility
>>>of bad gastro results with the Met at this point would probably outweigh
>>>the benefit of the Met. She said most women take Met with the goal of
>>>regulating their periods and inducing ovulation and that since I'm
>>>"getting my period basically every month I AM ovulating." She doesn't
>>>think I'm going to lose much weight, if any, with it. I already know
>>>it's not really going to do anything for the hair/skin issues. Since I
>>>hope to try to get pregnant in the next year, Spiro is out. So, we
>>>talked about it and she felt that exercise and a healthy diet would give
>>>me much more benefit than these pills, but I told her I really wanted to
>>>at least try it so she gave me a bunch of samples. And now I can't even
>>>start to try them until after 12/11 because I have an Endoscopy that
>>>day.. grrrr.. So anyway..... I guess I'm just looking to hear some
>>>good news from someone who may be sort of similar to me so I will know
>>>that the probable and unbearable diarrhea will be worth it...
>>>
>>>Thanks so much,
>>>Tracy
>>>
>>>At Tue, 27 Nov 2001, jodi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Samuel Thatcher says, with regard to fasting insulin levels, that
>>>>"usually levels over 20 are associated with insulin resistance and
>>>>levels under 10 are normal. We use 14 uU/ml as a cut off point of
>>>>normal." He also says that a fasting glucose to insulin ration that is
>>>>less than 4.5 is suggestive of insulin resistance. I guess maybe
>>>>"associated with" and "suggestive" are the key words... he doesn't say
>>>>for SURE you can tell... :-)
>>>>
>>>>I personally only had a fasting sugar/insulin ration drawn... never did
>>>>the tolerance test. My insulin was 19, my glucose was 82... my doctor
>>>>gave me met without any further testing. At that time, I was 160 and
>>>>5'4, so not enormously overweight...
>>>>
>>>>They have found met to work in women with PCOS who didn't test as IR...
>>>>and they have found met to work in women who are thin... I think it
>>>>might depend as much on how with it your doctor is. I've seen some
>>>>pretty out of it doctors in my time... i.e., the gynocologist who told
>>>>me I couldn't possibly have PCOS because I wasn't severely obsese... ha
>>>>ha ha...
>>>>
>>>>- jodi
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Sonnet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>A fasting glucose test won't tell you whether or not you are IR, though.
>>>>>It will only tell you whether or not you're diabetic. (I had this
>>>>>trouble with my doctors in Australia, btw - every time I mentioned the
>>>>>IR thing to them they would promptly check my blood sugar, see that it
>>>>>was fine or slightly low, and dismiss me entirely!)
>>>>>
>>>>>I think though that you may have something with the overweight
>>>>>connection. Even though we know Met is good for treating PCOS whether
>>>>>or not you show up as IR or ar overweight or slender, I think us big
>>>>>girls get the prescriptions for it more often. Maybe they look at us
>>>>>and assume that there MUST be something metabolic going on in there, or
>>>>>our case is worse, or something? DOctors are frustrating!!
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 27 Nov 2001, UK wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a quick question ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you have a fasting glucose test before being prescribed Metformin to
>>>>>>check if you are Insulin Resistant ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some doctors are saying that Met only works if you are IR, yet they
>>>>>>prescribed it for me without testing if I was IR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, do you think that weight makes a difference as to whether Met is
>>>>>>prescribed ?
>>>>>>I wonder if the more overweight you are, the more likely they are to let
>>>>>>you try Met.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would be interested to hear peoples opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>Gem
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Sonnet Fitzgerald, PCOS Association, Online Community Liaison. Email: sonnet@pcosupport.org
>>>>>
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