Re: TO Sam : Tried low carbing for 3 weeks and I have not lost any...PCOS??
From: Nikki (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:37:21 +0000
Hi Sam,
No I do not mind at all if you want to email me on my email,,,,privately the
addres is persian_n@hotmail.com, As I said if I can help you with my
experiences I will,
Well plain yogurt is alright but remember the carb count on the container is
per 100 grams and a small tub of yogurt is 200 grams so youcan imagine how
much carbs you are taking in.....
which I would say your whole tub could have been about 30-50 grams of carbs
if not more (could have been less) and that has already taken you over the
top
as I said I cut down on my water in take and now dring the diet coke I told
you about (must be caffiene free, caffiene forces your body to produce
insulin and because we are insulin resistant wher do youthink it goes to
,,,,, it turns to fat)
Lets annalise what you have here:
Yogurt 1cupfruit flavoured: 42.30g carbs (low fat)
Itallian dressing (if you only have 1 tee spook 1.5g carb
lettus 1 cup shreded 2.8grams
1/2 cup of onions 6.9 grams
and one pickel is 11.1 grams
so the salad plus the yogurt you already had 64.6grams (that is if you only
had one cup of yogurt
your salad alone is 22.3 grams and that is if you used these amounts and not
more and your cheese is low carb, remember I am not trying to make you feel
bad i want you to see what I mean,
you can have your salad how about 1 cup of lettuce , leave the onions out,
chop some low carb cheese and chop two hard boiled eggs. add some hame or
cooked meat (all low fat) and that should give you a good salad add the
dressing and you will still have carbs left over for the rest of the day,
it will be difficult to start with your body will go through so many changes
the first couple of days you will crave but try not to give in.
I can says that when I started Met I had no side effects but it turned out I
was not eating Low carb so the met did not effect me, and I thought I was
the lucky one, now that I am on the low carb induction ( 20grams a day) I do
have tne side effects but atleast I know it is working now
I leave the sanck sometimes and even if I am not hungry I eat a little just
enough to let my body know there is a regular meal, if you do not eat at
least three meals aday your body holds onto everything because it thinks
there is nothing more coming... so try even if its a piece of low carb
cheese and some shredded lettuce if you want greens but try
Try eat samller portions.
remember you can eat as much meat as you want it is zero carbs, there are
days that I just look at meat and think I cant do this but then I look at
the scale and bam the scale is lower than the day before,,, it is worth it,
if youget tired of meat change to tuna or other fish,
I am sure if you do this right it will work for you, before this diet I used
to starve myself and my weight would increase and not go down so If I can do
it so can you,,,,, I am here if you need me
Kindest regards
Nikki
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Sam)
>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Subject: TO NIKKI : Tried low carbing for 3 weeks and I have not lost
>any...PCOS??
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 05:53:51 -0500
>
>Hay Nikki, I would like to have your personal email address if you do
>not mind me emailing you..
>
>I just have greens as in salads only..I have lettuce, pickles, very
>little of onions and little of jalapeno and lots of crab meat and cheese
>with Italian dressing..this amount of greens offsets the dangerous
>effect of the meat and poultry on my diet..Can you imagine that I lose
>my appetite and I do not feel hungry for days because of that high
>intake of protien not to mention that when I smell or see meat now I
>feel like vometing..Only when I have a salad for lunch then I do not get
>that akward feeling and I can have protein with no problem..
>
>I have about 2 litres a day of water ..maybe I should increase that to 3
>like you..
>
>About Met..I read in an article that Met helps to lose weight for most
>ladies..but for some it had no effect and other gained some weight on
>it... I can be from this gorup since I never suffered any side effects
>of nausea and dirreha on it like I was not taking it at all..For how
>long have you been on Met?
>
>Thank you very much for being so supportive ..I was about to lose hope
>and give it up..for me I have never lasted in any diet for more than 5
>days and most of them were fad diets which made me lose 4 pounds at a
>time..so it is very frustrating for me to hang in for 3 weeks and lose
>nothing!!
>
>One last question..Do I have to stick to snacking and these 3 meals even
>if I feel full from the previous meal?? I think that we should not stuff
>ourselves after all cause that gains you weight..What do you ususally do
>in such case?
>
>At Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Nikki wrote:
> >
> >Sam,
> >
> >Just give it a try, I dont think that the meds are effecting your weight
> >loss I am on met and if anything it has helped me withthe weight loss,
> >
> >Well as for greens if you want greens have a VERY small amount have a
>look
> >at the carb counter on the atkins website it will tell you which ones you
> >can have and the quantities, remember for the first two weeks you cant
>have
> >more than 20grams a day and some greens are quite high.
> >
> >I know protein does that but with the atkins diet it is the only way (by
>my
> >experience) low carb hight protein and fat for the first two weeks.
> >
> >I know that it will be difficult, but what is there to loose apart from
> >weight, make sure you are not haveing milk, cream or yogurt and obviously
>no
> >sugar, I drink about three litres of water a day but have changed it a
>bit
> >to a bit less water and caffeine free diet coke ( ZERO CARBS)
> >
> >I am here if you need help,
> >
> >just shout
> >
> >kind regards
> >Nikki
> >
> >ps a hint do not get on the scale every day space it out in three days
> >
> >Keep smiling
> >>From: sam@hotmail.com (Sam)
> >>Reply-To: pcos@obgyn.net
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS <pcos@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >>Subject: TO NIKKI : Tried low carbing for 3 weeks and I have not lost
> >>any...PCOS??
> >>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:27:55 -0500
> >>
> >>Thanks very much Nikki for the notes..
> >>I think maybe I was trying too hard and I was not snacking and had only
> >>2 meals aday....the only bad thing about this diet that you have to the
> >>3 meals and snack..for me it works very badly cause I have a flat
> >>stomach but when I follow that I develop a belly!! not to mention the
> >>effect of drinking so much water!! Actually that what made me stick to
> >>only 2 meals aday with no sncaks..
> >>
> >>Another thing..when I stop greens and have only protein I lose my
> >>appetite compleltely for food ..I really need some greens in my diet..
> >>
> >>Anyway, I wrote down your daily diet and I will try that for 2 weeks and
> >>see what happens with me..If nothing lost then I will certainly know
> >>that his diet is not for me..so I will give it a shot another month
> >>maximum..
> >>
> >>Another thing worht mentioning..I am on Spiro and Met..has this anything
> >>to do with stalling my weight? (Actually I gained half pound on the
> >>sacle this morning!!)
> >>
> >>Thank you very much, Nikki
> >>
> >>At Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Nikki wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Well lets see.
> >> >
> >> >just remember this is just what I have done to achieve the result I
> >> >have......
> >> >
> >> >Morning: you say you have 2 fried eggs in the monring, why not try and
> >> >change that and have two poached or boiled eggs and have some grilled
> >>Bacon
> >> >with that
> >> >
> >> >11.00 snack: have some Cheese ( BABYBELL MINI if youcan get it has 0
> >>carbs
> >> >in it) or just check on the shelf in the shops as there is sure to be
>a
> >> >variety read the pakets and it will tell you more or less the qty of
> >>Carbs
> >> >
> >> >Lunch: Try and leave out the greens for two weeks ( induction ) What i
> >> >usualy have is 2 sliced up hotdog suasages( has about 1gramm all
> >>together)
> >> >with some cheese (Baby bel again) or some crispy bacon ( you can buy
>it
> >> >ready made in the shops)
> >> >you can also have tinned ham some brands have 0.7g per 100g
> >> >
> >> >3.00 snack have a suasage or a slice of Ham, and some cheese.
> >> >
> >> >Dinner: how about some Grilled chicken with some pepers added (green
>or
> >> >red)..... or try some lamb grill it and then slice it up addd to a pot
> >>add 2
> >> >florets of BRocolli/cauliflower and then add some instant gravy powder
>(
> >> >choose the brand with the least carbs) I use Bovril cubes , if youcan
>get
> >>it
> >> >you can use a whole cube it hardly has any carbs,,,,
> >> >
> >> >If you make a lot, leave some over and have it for lunch the next day
>(
> >>it
> >> >taste realygood the next day)
> >> >
> >> >I know it sounds very boring but have a look at the carb counter and
>find
> >> >the things you can have and mix them you will soon come to a low carb
> >>eating
> >> >plan you will enjoy,,,, I do not like to fry my foods so I grill and
> >>roast
> >> >all my meat and boil scramble or poach my eggs, try it
> >> >it has worked for me and I have had very good results so far,
> >> >
> >> >Do you do any exercise,,,, if not try and get into one if you exercise
> >> >atleast 3 times a week you will feel better and you will be burning
> >>calaries
> >> >will reach you goal eventualy.
> >> >
> >> >I know how frustrating it is I had previously tried to Low carb and
>was
> >> >unsuccessfull, so I read up to see where I went wrong and it turned
>out I
> >> >was doing thing the wrong way round, I too drink a lot of water, but I
> >>drink
> >> >caffeine free diet coke as well and I am still getting results....
> >> >
> >> >Remember read the back of the containers it will help you buy the
>right
> >> >stuff,
> >> >
> >> >I hope that this helps you in some way I am here if you need to chat
>or
> >>need
> >> >some advice,
> >> >
> >> >kind regards
> >> >
> >> >Nikki
> >>
>
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