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Re: Frustrated
From: Zowie (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:57:14 -0500 (CDT)
Hello again Dona,
When I mentioned about my insulin being only slightly high, it was
BEFORE they put me on Avandia. That's why they're keeping me at this
low dose. Believe it or not, I don't know if they've done another check
on it since starting Avandia. They've had me do so many tests that I
can't remember. I guess I'll have to check on that with my appt. today.
I'm certainly not feeling any better and if I can't get help in THAT
field I'm gonna have a fit! How can these Dr's keep repeating "there's
nothing we can do", or "just lose weight", or "keep doing what you're
doing"?????!!!!!! If I had some control, I'd be a size -300 by now!
Nothing is working! It's so darn frustrating too! And it's really
bringing my esteem further down than what it already is. I BETTER get
some answers. That's all I'll say for now. I'll post again this
afternoon after my appt. Thanks for the info, and for bearing with me!
---Zowie :)
At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Dona wrote:
>
>Hi again Zowie,
>even slightly high or being on the high side of normal range with
>insulin resistance can cause problems with us PCOSers not being able to
>loose weight and PCOS symptoms! You said your insulin is still slightly
>elevated I would talk to the doctor about maybe upping the dosage of
>Avandia a bit to see if you can get the level completely normal range
>then maybe you can start having better luck with your dieting efforts
>and the PCOS symptoms.Avandia can cause weight gain just like Actos...it
>is a side affect just like weight loss can be a side affect with
>metformin. Dosen't happen to everyone. You and I are just in the group
>that get this nasty side affect of weight gain with Avandia and Actos. I
>did end up loosing the weight I gained once my levels were normalized.
>It didnt happen overnight though it took time!I gained 15 lbs in one
>month...took me 3 months to loose them!I wish we could loose the weight
>as fast as we gain it...but unfortunately thats not how our bodies work
>=(. Give Avandia Time I think it will work for you...if you've already
>seen some improvement in your insulin...it might get even better!Dont
>give up!
>Good luck tomorrow and don't take no for an answere (smile)Dona
>
>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Zowie wrote:
>>Hi Dona,
>>Thanks for thinking of me. :) I'm not on Met anymore. I had to stop
>>taking it in Feb. after ending up in ER. I've since been on Avandia (2
>>mg/day twice a day) since March. The Dr. said my insulin was only
>>slightly high--which is why they are keeping me at such a low dose. I've
>>been getting migraines more frequently lately and don't know why. I
>>have one right now that's been oncoming for a few hours. I'm still
>>trucking along, but I'm badly beaten. I have a list of things I want to
>>discuss tomorrow with the Dr. I just hope he can help me. I made an
>>appt. with my regular clinic--and not even with my PCM (she wasn't
>>available). We'll see what happens. Thanks for thinking of me. I hope
>>it turns out well too. :)
>>--Zowie :)
>>
>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Dona wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm so sorry to read that your still going through this Zowie. How long
>>>have you been taking the Met? When I was on Actos I had the side affect
>>>of gaining 15 lbs in one month but after my insulin levels were
>>>normalized by it I was able to loose that 15 lbs plus 20 more by low
>>>carbing and low calorie took 3 months for my insulin to be normal
>>>levels. Do you know if your insulin is still high? would be
>>>interresting to find out.Wish you luck at you Doctors visit tomorrow. I
>>>hope they will have some answeres for you.Dona
>>>
>>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Zowie wrote:
>>>>Before people jumped in elation on this post (thinking that Metformin is
>>>>a miracle weight loss drug), I wanted to explain that Metformin is NOT,
>>>>I repeate NOT prescribed or made for weight loss. It is (like Avandia
>>>>and Actos) an Insulin Sensitizer given to help our insulin function more
>>>>correctly. Because of this, SOME women do experience weight loss---as a
>>>>_side effect_, but it, in NO way, should be EXPECTED from taking this
>>>>drug. I just hate the thought of women taking Met and thinking "Yes,
>>>>I'll finally lose weight!" and then think of the sadness on their face
>>>>when weight loss does NOT occur. It breaks my heart to think of this,
>>>>and I don't want any of us women thinking that Met is the answer for
>>>>weight loss because of that. I, too, am struggling to lose weight---and
>>>>I have almost 200 lbs. to lose! NOTHING is working for me despite the
>>>>exercise and dieting I've stuck hard to for at least a month. My
>>>>symptoms didn't even change. In fact NOTHING changed except that I
>>>>GAINED weight. Explain that one to me! >:( I'm looking for answers too
>>>>since now, I've become so incredibly tired and weak, that I just do NOT
>>>>have the energy to exercise, let alone walk around much anymore. I have
>>>>an appt. tomorrow in which I will ask about all of this, but I'm
>>>>expecting the usual push aside like I have the words "Ignore me, I'm too
>>>>pathetic for your time" stamped on my forehead. Looking for answers too
>>>>my friends! But I wanted to explain that about Met so that you ladies
>>>>don't get your hopes so high up and then get let down so terribly in
>>>>defeat. I'm in the same pool with ya though! Let's hope we find some
>>>>answers!
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Micha wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Find a doctor that will give you metformin now or just bring all the
>>>>>literature you can find on the WEB to your doctor and insist that you
>>>>>are put on it now. I've had PCOS since I was a child. No matter how
>>>>>much I dieted or exercised I spent 20 years gaining weight and feeling
>>>>>physically terrible until I was put on metformin. It took 3 months to
>>>>>start to see results, but it's been a year-and-a half and I've lost 60
>>>>>pounds and I'm actually thin now and feeling better than I have in my
>>>>>life. Don't give up and be very persistent. Best of luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, i have been visiting this sight for almost a year now and it has
>>>>>>been wonderful. When I was 18 I was diagnosed with PCOS. In december
>>>>>>2000, I was diagnosed as having impaired glucose tolerance (IR?). So,
>>>>>>the doctor put me on a diabetic like diet and told me to start
>>>>>>exercising. I have been on the diet for about 4 mths, and have been
>>>>>>exercising for the same time. The problem is I have not lost any weight
>>>>>>or inches. At first I was told to step up my exercising, which I did.
>>>>>>But, it has not made a difference (I have been exercising vigorously for
>>>>>>2 months). I have just taken another IGTT (this time a 2 hr instead of
>>>>>>3) and will see the doctor in a couple of weeks. I am at a loss for a
>>>>>>solution and feel extremely frustrated. I don't want to feel sorry for
>>>>>>myself, but it's hard not to under the circumstances. At my first visit
>>>>>>with the doctor he said that he did not want to prescribe met until I
>>>>>>tried to improve things through exercise and diet. I don't know if I am
>>>>>>still having glucose/insulin problems (but, I have a feeling I do), but
>>>>>>what could be causing me to retain my weight (am 30lbs overweight)? It
>>>>>>seems that I am the same weight whether I exercise/eat healthy or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can someone give me advice and/or their own experiences. I would really
>>>>>>appreciate it. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Lisa
>>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Good luck! -- Zowie :)
>>>>
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