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Re: Frustrated
From: Dona (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:45:37 -0500 (CDT)
Hi again Zowie,
even slightly high or being on the high side of normal range with
insulin resistance can cause problems with us PCOSers not being able to
loose weight and PCOS symptoms! You said your insulin is still slightly
elevated I would talk to the doctor about maybe upping the dosage of
Avandia a bit to see if you can get the level completely normal range
then maybe you can start having better luck with your dieting efforts
and the PCOS symptoms.Avandia can cause weight gain just like Actos...it
is a side affect just like weight loss can be a side affect with
metformin. Dosen't happen to everyone. You and I are just in the group
that get this nasty side affect of weight gain with Avandia and Actos. I
did end up loosing the weight I gained once my levels were normalized.
It didnt happen overnight though it took time!I gained 15 lbs in one
month...took me 3 months to loose them!I wish we could loose the weight
as fast as we gain it...but unfortunately thats not how our bodies work
=(. Give Avandia Time I think it will work for you...if you've already
seen some improvement in your insulin...it might get even better!Dont
give up!
Good luck tomorrow and don't take no for an answere (smile)Dona
>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Zowie wrote:
>Hi Dona,
>Thanks for thinking of me. :) I'm not on Met anymore. I had to stop
>taking it in Feb. after ending up in ER. I've since been on Avandia (2
>mg/day twice a day) since March. The Dr. said my insulin was only
>slightly high--which is why they are keeping me at such a low dose. I've
>been getting migraines more frequently lately and don't know why. I
>have one right now that's been oncoming for a few hours. I'm still
>trucking along, but I'm badly beaten. I have a list of things I want to
>discuss tomorrow with the Dr. I just hope he can help me. I made an
>appt. with my regular clinic--and not even with my PCM (she wasn't
>available). We'll see what happens. Thanks for thinking of me. I hope
>it turns out well too. :)
>--Zowie :)
>
>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Dona wrote:
>>
>>I'm so sorry to read that your still going through this Zowie. How long
>>have you been taking the Met? When I was on Actos I had the side affect
>>of gaining 15 lbs in one month but after my insulin levels were
>>normalized by it I was able to loose that 15 lbs plus 20 more by low
>>carbing and low calorie took 3 months for my insulin to be normal
>>levels. Do you know if your insulin is still high? would be
>>interresting to find out.Wish you luck at you Doctors visit tomorrow. I
>>hope they will have some answeres for you.Dona
>>
>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Zowie wrote:
>>>Before people jumped in elation on this post (thinking that Metformin is
>>>a miracle weight loss drug), I wanted to explain that Metformin is NOT,
>>>I repeate NOT prescribed or made for weight loss. It is (like Avandia
>>>and Actos) an Insulin Sensitizer given to help our insulin function more
>>>correctly. Because of this, SOME women do experience weight loss---as a
>>>_side effect_, but it, in NO way, should be EXPECTED from taking this
>>>drug. I just hate the thought of women taking Met and thinking "Yes,
>>>I'll finally lose weight!" and then think of the sadness on their face
>>>when weight loss does NOT occur. It breaks my heart to think of this,
>>>and I don't want any of us women thinking that Met is the answer for
>>>weight loss because of that. I, too, am struggling to lose weight---and
>>>I have almost 200 lbs. to lose! NOTHING is working for me despite the
>>>exercise and dieting I've stuck hard to for at least a month. My
>>>symptoms didn't even change. In fact NOTHING changed except that I
>>>GAINED weight. Explain that one to me! >:( I'm looking for answers too
>>>since now, I've become so incredibly tired and weak, that I just do NOT
>>>have the energy to exercise, let alone walk around much anymore. I have
>>>an appt. tomorrow in which I will ask about all of this, but I'm
>>>expecting the usual push aside like I have the words "Ignore me, I'm too
>>>pathetic for your time" stamped on my forehead. Looking for answers too
>>>my friends! But I wanted to explain that about Met so that you ladies
>>>don't get your hopes so high up and then get let down so terribly in
>>>defeat. I'm in the same pool with ya though! Let's hope we find some
>>>answers!
>>>
>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Micha wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Find a doctor that will give you metformin now or just bring all the
>>>>literature you can find on the WEB to your doctor and insist that you
>>>>are put on it now. I've had PCOS since I was a child. No matter how
>>>>much I dieted or exercised I spent 20 years gaining weight and feeling
>>>>physically terrible until I was put on metformin. It took 3 months to
>>>>start to see results, but it's been a year-and-a half and I've lost 60
>>>>pounds and I'm actually thin now and feeling better than I have in my
>>>>life. Don't give up and be very persistent. Best of luck!
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, i have been visiting this sight for almost a year now and it has
>>>>>been wonderful. When I was 18 I was diagnosed with PCOS. In december
>>>>>2000, I was diagnosed as having impaired glucose tolerance (IR?). So,
>>>>>the doctor put me on a diabetic like diet and told me to start
>>>>>exercising. I have been on the diet for about 4 mths, and have been
>>>>>exercising for the same time. The problem is I have not lost any weight
>>>>>or inches. At first I was told to step up my exercising, which I did.
>>>>>But, it has not made a difference (I have been exercising vigorously for
>>>>>2 months). I have just taken another IGTT (this time a 2 hr instead of
>>>>>3) and will see the doctor in a couple of weeks. I am at a loss for a
>>>>>solution and feel extremely frustrated. I don't want to feel sorry for
>>>>>myself, but it's hard not to under the circumstances. At my first visit
>>>>>with the doctor he said that he did not want to prescribe met until I
>>>>>tried to improve things through exercise and diet. I don't know if I am
>>>>>still having glucose/insulin problems (but, I have a feeling I do), but
>>>>>what could be causing me to retain my weight (am 30lbs overweight)? It
>>>>>seems that I am the same weight whether I exercise/eat healthy or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can someone give me advice and/or their own experiences. I would really
>>>>>appreciate it. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Lisa
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Good luck! -- Zowie :)
>>>
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