Re: am I fat
From: Nikki (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 22 May 2001 07:34:07 -0000
Thank you Jody,
one question, where will I get Colette Harris's Book, They dont seem to have
it in the books stores I have been to?
Thanks for the Info, well Last night I had a green salad with a boiled egg
and 2 slices of Ham, it was devine, Just one thing I am not a rice, pasta,
meat kind of person, as i have said I love my fruit and veg, and now and
again I will have a boiled egg and some thinly sliced ham. as for drinks
well I drink about 3 ltrs of water a day, and at home i only drink fresh
fruit juices, I know it probably sound unbelievable, but I hate Coke ect,
and sweets well oncce now and again I get a craving, but very seldom, though
my treat is a pkt of corn Crisps,,, I know bad news but I think It is my
only down fall.... oh well am going to try everything you ladies have told
me about, and I will see what the next couple of weeks bring,
Have a good day
Nikki
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (jodi)
>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Subject: Re: am I fat
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:32:27 -0500
>
>I don't follow an eating plan per say... i find them too restrictive. i
>have thought about doing so, but
>whenever i try to follow those "1/2 c, cottage cheese, one small apple,
>2 cups mixed greens with
>balsamic vinegar dressing..." type things i always feel deprived and
>rebellious.
>
>so... i have read Sugarbusters, the swarzbein principle, and the
>age-free Zone (which has a section on PCOS...)
>and i have made a much more concerted effort to eat more protein and
>less carbs. i do walk a lot - like,
>5-6 miles a day - so i especially do not feel the need to cut out all
>carbs. but reading these books has
>given me such a better understanding of metabolism and fat storage and
>how things you never thought would
>make you fat do in fact make you fat (ie, my weight loss really started
>taking off after i quit drinking
>diet pepsi).
>
>in the past, i really tried losing weight with low-fat, vegetarian diet
>and exercise. this diet included
>a LOT of carbs (some refined, some not) and a lot of diet pepsi. i was
>never able to lose weight.
>(i seem to be a fortunate PCOSer in that i do not put ON weight
>easily... i simply can't lose it when i try to.)
>i actually hated exercise because i seemed to gain weight from it - i
>put on muscle so easily. now i know that's part of my PCOS...
>
>in januray i went to a PCOS-savvy endocrinologist, who put me on
>metformin. i tipped the scales then at
>161 pounds. since then i have gradually changed my eating habits and
>gotten over my fear of exercise
>induced weight gain. i eat meat again (well, mostly just chicken...
>some tuna fish...) i eat lots of eggs and
>cheese and i use 2% milk instead of skim. i have given up diet pepsi
>(well, i give in now and then but the longer
>i go without the more the thought of having it sickens me...) i have
>given up nutrasweet in general - no more
>light yogurts for me!
>
>i'm not going to lie and say i never give in and have ice cream, or
>pizza, or things i know i really shouldn't...
>but despite this, the increased protein, lowered carbs, and met (plus
>walking, i guess... though from an
>exercise standpoint that's a recent
>add in, though i did walk a lot before anyway for transportation
>reasons...) my scale is now down to 135.
>
>this is my home scale, i don't know how accurate it is. but it used to
>hover around 155, so even if i come to find
>i'm not 135 on my docs scale (though come august, when my next appt is,
>i expect to be in the 120s for sure, on
>my scale or otherwise) i have lost a lot of weight - more than was ever
>possible for me on a low-fat
>lotta exercise vegetarian diet alone!!!
>
>i definitely reccomend Sugar Busters and the Schwarzbein Principle. The
>Age Free Zone is pretty good
>but has probably provided me with the least amount of knowledge - it's a
>good book, i'm just saying
>it didn't teach me much i don't know after the others.
>
>i also highly recomend sam thatchers PCOS: The hidden epidemic and
>Collette Harris's PCOS: A woman's
>guide to dealing with polycystic ovarian syndrome if you want a better
>understanding of this disorder. I
>think collette's book especially pushes how you can take measures
>yourself to treat your PCOS -
>her book certainly motivated me to exercsie more, if nothing else. :)
>
>hope some of this helps. i know it's hard to believe, but eating more
>fat and protein, plus met, has
>lead to weight loss i never would have dreamed possible. get off the
>rice cakes!!! and steamed veggies alone
>so not a dinner make. however, a nice chicken or tofu and veggie stir
>fry, with some olive oil, garlic, and
>ginger DOES a nice dinner make... maybe some brown rice on the side.
>or, a favorite of mine when i'm
>lazy and hungry is to cube some tofu and throw it in a bowl with frozen
>broc. & caulifolower, some green peas
>or lima beans (they're low glycemic) and a veg. bouilion cube, add some
>water and microwave. ya got
>protein, starches, and nonstarchie veggies right there.
>
>- jodi
>
>At Mon, 21 May 2001, Nikki wrote:
> >
> >I am aware that the Rice cakes are not enough. but I am terrified of
>eating
> >more than that, Yes TERRIFIED, I have tried to eat three healthy meals
> >aday, ( eating plan from the dietician ) and did not even loose a pound
>but
> >gained a few without cheating, so I got terrified and refused to eat
>anymore
> >but if you sware to eating properly with met and excersize I will try it,
>do
> >you follow a eatingplan or what ,,,, I want so desparatly to loose as you
> >all probably do but just cant get anyware,,,, So i will go home and eat a
> >healthy meal and try again with the three meals, i tell you my Hubby will
> >sure be happy as he hates it when I dont eat,,,,
> >
> >What will I do without you all I know I am new here but already feel like
>I
> >will be lost without you all ( BIG HUG)
> >
> >Nikki
> >
> >>From: brdmadgrrl@aol.com (jodi)
> >>Reply-To: pcos@obgyn.net
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS <pcos@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >>Subject: Re: am I fat
> >>Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:39:01 -0500
> >>
> >>i don't think the fact that you are eating rice cakes is to blame so
> >>much as the fact that you are eating ONLY 6 rice cakes a day.
> >>this is a surefire way to slow your metabolism down to a standstill.
> >>
> >>it is not important to avoid carbs entirely so much as it is to get more
> >>of a balance with protein and carbs -
> >>yes, it is true that refined carbs are not good for us with PCOS, and
> >>rice cakes are pretty damn
> >>refined - but if you were to eat those rice cakes - say, maybe one or
> >>two - piled high with, say, turkey
> >>breast and munster cheese... that would be a much better "meal" for
> >>you.
> >>
> >>using met, a modified lowish carb (more low glycemic index) diet, and
> >>exercise i have lost 25 pounds since january -
> >>i really do not think you need to give up ALL carbs. an example of a
> >>day's food for me might be
> >>shredded wheat & bran cereal with 2% milk, and maybe a piece of string
> >>cheese for a little more protein...
> >>some tuna salad (with real mayo) and raw veggies for lunch... maybe an
> >>apple...
> >>a big ol' grilled chicken salad for dinner with grilled
> >>chicken, lettuce, carrots, cucumber, and rice vinegar and olive oil
> >>dressing... maybe a little bit of a grain medley on the side...
> >>fruit, cheese, and/or nuts as snacks now and then...
> >>
> >>i really don't do super low carb, but i try to eliminate the more
> >>refined things, and get more protein. i used to be vegetarian
> >>and i think i have been so much healthier since i quit that... it's
> >>hard to get a lot of protein as a veg. and not get a lot of
> >>carb, too. try to get more protein in proportion to your carbs - i
> >>think the zone recomends 1 g protein to 2 g carbs...
> >>but don't eat JUST carbs, and don't eat JUST one meal a day. eating one
> >>meal a day is bad for anyone trying to lose
> >>weight, and eating just carbs is bad for anyone with PCOS.
> >>
> >>- jodi
> >>
> >>At Mon, 21 May 2001, Susan C. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Nikki! Step away from the ricecakes! I think I heard a collective gasp
> >> >from the board as we read that..lol. But seriously, It may not seem
> >> >like you are eating much, but if what you ARE eating consists of high
> >> >carbs, you are still going to have trouble with the weight loss. Try
> >> >cutting the carbs and adding a little protein. You'll have to get
> >> >creative experimenting to keep the fat grams from getting outrageous
>if
> >> >you are low carbing and to find things you like, but it is very
>possible
> >> >to do. You'll probably find your energy and stamina get better too.
>I'm
> >> >sending you as much good luck as I can muster!!
> >> >Susan C. :-)
> >> >
> >> >At Mon, 21 May 2001, Nikki wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >>Well I am also FAT and tired of looking at myself in the mirror, I am
> >> >>terrified of getting on the scale, and I hate myself though the one
>good
> >> >>thing is My husband, he was there when I was diagnosed six years ago
>and
> >>he
> >> >>went out of his wasy to find out what I would be going through and
>what
> >> >>effect it would have on my Body, He is amazing but as I tell him I
>know
> >>what
> >> >>I look like but he just says he loves me more and more everyday,,,,,
> >>well
> >> >>back to the FAT side I weigh 130kg's ( i think it is about 290 pounds
> >>and am
> >> >>Five foot 6, I know I am overweight I have tried everything I have
>been
> >>at
> >> >>gym about 6 months and do a 2 hour programe everynight and eat very
> >>Little (
> >> >>six ricecakes in the evening and on the weekend I have one cooked
>meal
> >>and
> >> >>guess what I have hardly lost weight maybe a few pounds, My doc has
>now
> >>put
> >> >>me on Metformin ( been on it about a week) so I am hopeing that this
> >>will
> >> >>help, I know how depressed you can get, At my gym there art a lot of
>Big
> >> >>people who started the same time as me who do gym then go and eat a
> >>huge
> >> >>meal and when it come to weigh and measure time they are down a stone
> >>and a
> >> >>few inches,,,,,, that is when it is the worst for me..... so I feel
>what
> >>you
> >> >>feel as well,,,,, Oh well I guess we are all made one way or the
> >> >>other.......feel free to contact me on my email adress if you need to
> >>chat
> >> >>anyone welcome: persian_n@hotmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >>have a good day ladies
> >> >>
> >> >>>From: lbrewer2@utk.edu (Lori)
> >> >>>Reply-To: pcos@obgyn.net
> >> >>>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS <pcos@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >> >>>Subject: am I fat
> >> >>>Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:18:29 -0500
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I am sitting here looking in the mirror today hating myself. But
>yeah,
> >> >>>what else is new.Everyone around me it seems is a perfect size, and
>I
> >> >>>hate my body for doing this to me, and for taking away all hope of a
> >> >>>"healthy body." Then an epiphany struck me. I am comparing apples
>to
> >> >>>oranges. What good is it for me to compare myself to others who are
> >>not
> >> >>>like me. I work out and eat right, and I have yet to even come
>close
> >>to
> >> >>>a target weight. Looking around and seeing all the stick women has
> >> >>>depressed me. I just want to k7ow if I am in the normal range of my
> >> >>>cysters. I am 5'10 240 and a size 18. Is this normal for women
>with
> >> >>>PCOS, or am I still overweight? Another thing that I would like to
> >>point
> >> >>>out to all of you women who are down about your weight like I am.
>For
> >> >>>me (according to my Doc)and most other PCOS women tend to carry
>their
> >> >>>weight like a man, in their stomach. I really think this works in
>our
> >> >>>benefit, because we "carry our weight well" carrying it all in your
> >> >>>stomach makes it easier to hide. Anyone else carry all their weight
>in
> >> >>>the tummy. For me, this makes me look less like a chunk than I am!
> >> >>>
> >>
>
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