Re: PCOS digest 1256
From: Judi (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat, 12 May 2001 21:03:04 +0100
Hi, I posted a message ages ago and I've been reading the posts ever since.
Just wanted to join in with the discussion on holistic health, and say that
after two and a half years trying to conceive and spending the last year on
clomid and now Profasi as well, I got disillusioned with doctors who only
treat the symptoms and never get to the cause of a problem. So I went to
see a Naturopath. She's got me drinking two litres of water a day,
recommended a healthy diet and either yoga or Tai chi. I've been sticking
to the water and healthy diet ( I am allowed the odd treat) for about three
weeks now. I thought the water thing would be really hard but it's actually
quite easy. I keep an empty 1.5 litre bottle which I take to work and fill
up with filtered water. Seeing exactly how much I have to drink makes it
easier for me to know how much further I have to go. I do feel better and
it's also helping the eczema I've had since childhood. I also have a herbal
medicine the naturopath prescribed me - tastes foul so it must be doing me
good! I decided that even if I don't end up pg at least I'll be a lot
healthier. The medicine is to help my body heal itself (of the PCOS). Will
let you all know how I get on.
Take care,
Wish you all well
Judi
-----Original Message-----
From: anonymous@obgyn.net [mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net
Sent: 10 May 2001 21:16
To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
Subject: PCOS digest 1256
PCOS Digest 1256
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Sharing My Wealth: How My Lifestyle Addition is Helping My Acne,
Weight, Balding
2) Thanks for all the info ( Pretty long one too)
by ferrantec@home.com (C.)
3) Re: Thanks for all the info ( Pretty long one too)
by anonymous@medispecialty.com (bluebonnet)
4) whine/rant/vent, whatever ya wanna call it (long =)
by paulam@kih.net (paula)
5) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com (Sonnet)
6) Re: melasma(brown patches)
by Srpowers1994@aol.com
7) Re: melasma(brown patches)
by Srpowers1994@aol.com
8) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Zowie)
9) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by "Amy Cochran" <amy.cochran@trism.com>
10) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by anonymous@medispecialty.com
11) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Belinda)
12) Re: melasma(brown patches)
by brdmadgrrl@aol.com (jodi)
13) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by brdmadgrrl@aol.com (jodi)
14) After hysterectomy and R oophorectomy
by dmatters@silvercrest.ab.ca (Deb)
15) Re: melasma(brown patches)
by sstair@harcourt.com
16) Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Anonymus)
17) Zowie.. that 'L' thing
by michellepere@peoplepc.com (Michelle)
18)
by "Rachel Laszlo" <rachel1719@hotmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:33:01 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (C.)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Thanks for all the info ( Pretty long one too)
Message-ID: <200105100333.WAA30101@mail.medispecialty.com>
I've been nosing around for a while and learning much more about PCOS
from all of you. I have always known that my irregularity was not
normal despite what my doctors have always insisted. I found an article
about PCOS and discussed it with my boyfriend, whom I have confided in
from the begining(those of you who just revealed, I'm sure that they
will adore you just the same, you sound like beautiful people) I found a
doctor that listened to my chronic weight problem (from 135 to 175 w/2
yrs), annoying facial hair, acne and irregular periods and took the time
to investigate it further than just throwing the BCP in my face, which I
never could continue to take past 1 month. I have felt like a 24 yr old
woman turning into a 45 yr old man. I just today heard from my doc with
my lab results and am scheduled to go over everything day after tomorrow
since they indicated that I most likely have PCOS. I just want to thank
everyone for sharing their experiences. I assumed after reading that
article over 6 months ago that I had PCOS and now know for sure. I do
want to add for those who just told their boyfriends about it that my
relationship has gotten a lot smoother since my boyfriend now
understands where my feelings of low self-esteem, obsession about eating
only healthy food( he loves to eat out and drink beer) and my mood
swings come from. We don't get into stupid fights anymore and he is a
lot more attentive to trying to make me feel good about myself. So it
is a good thing you got that out. You'll know if it is for real. Well
good luck ladies, I'll be talknig at ya! P.S. I have always exercised
regularly, but started a macrobiotic diet about 2 months ago and have
lost about 10 lbs. You may want to check it out if you have weight
issues.
PEACE - C.
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:36:37 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (bluebonnet)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: Thanks for all the info ( Pretty long one too)
Message-ID: <200105100536.AAA03035@mail.medispecialty.com>
what is a macrobiotic diet
At Wed, 9 May 2001, C. wrote:
>
>I've been nosing around for a while and learning much more about PCOS
>from all of you. I have always known that my irregularity was not
>normal despite what my doctors have always insisted. I found an article
>about PCOS and discussed it with my boyfriend, whom I have confided in
>from the begining(those of you who just revealed, I'm sure that they
>will adore you just the same, you sound like beautiful people) I found a
>doctor that listened to my chronic weight problem (from 135 to 175 w/2
>yrs), annoying facial hair, acne and irregular periods and took the time
>to investigate it further than just throwing the BCP in my face, which I
>never could continue to take past 1 month. I have felt like a 24 yr old
>woman turning into a 45 yr old man. I just today heard from my doc with
>my lab results and am scheduled to go over everything day after tomorrow
>since they indicated that I most likely have PCOS. I just want to thank
>everyone for sharing their experiences. I assumed after reading that
>article over 6 months ago that I had PCOS and now know for sure. I do
>want to add for those who just told their boyfriends about it that my
>relationship has gotten a lot smoother since my boyfriend now
>understands where my feelings of low self-esteem, obsession about eating
>only healthy food( he loves to eat out and drink beer) and my mood
>swings come from. We don't get into stupid fights anymore and he is a
>lot more attentive to trying to make me feel good about myself. So it
>is a good thing you got that out. You'll know if it is for real. Well
>good luck ladies, I'll be talknig at ya! P.S. I have always exercised
>regularly, but started a macrobiotic diet about 2 months ago and have
>lost about 10 lbs. You may want to check it out if you have weight
>issues.
>
>PEACE - C.
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:37:49 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (paula)
------------------------------
To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: whine/rant/vent, whatever ya wanna call it (long =)
Message-ID: <200105100537.AAA03808@mail.medispecialty.com>
i have really been in the blahs for the past 2 weeks. i couldn't figure
out why really so just decided it must be stress or school or something.
but tonight, while taking a bath (i do all my deep thinking there lol) i
figuered out what it is. I AM TIRED OF HAVING PCOS!!! i am tired of it
being the end all be all of my existance. i wake up in the morning,
take my BBT hopeing for that tell-tale dip in temp that never really
comes. then i roll over go back to sleep, wake up, find breakfast...not
too many carbs now, you dont want an insulin reaction, take my
meds...shave my face!!! (no woman should ever have to do that on a daily
basis) go off to school/work/whatever...come home, mentally and
physically exhausted, take more meds, watch more carbs...know i need to
exercise, go have sex with hubby "just in case".
my life would have been so much different without this. i was gonna be
a doctor! i am so tired of life revolving around me being sick. im
tired of being sick, i have been sick my whole damn life. people talk
about how God wont give you more than you can handle, and everything
happens for a reason...but I CANT HANDLE THIS...and i see no reason for
it. i am tired of it, i am sick of it...and i think that i need a
break...i need a bone thrown at me. what could possibly be the reason
for feeling like crap all the time? for not being able to have children?
im sorry guys, i think its PMS, or just simply this damn illness. i
cant seem to get motivated. so i have sulked for the past 2 weeks, and
i have to tell you, i have eaten a lot of ice cream...back to the
emotional eating you see....and i have once again gained weight back...i
can tell. it is freakin amazing how fast we can put on weight ya know?
and my hair is growing faster again, which means i have mucked up my
insulin again....so now i have to start all over...back to the stupid
drawing board...i just dont know that i can do it...
you know, it is a cruel thing, this disease, it makes you fat, makes you
hairy, makes you an emotional wreck so you cant deal with being fat and
hairy. so it is like this feedback loop...i know that no matter how
much weight i lose, or how normal my insulin is, my emotions will never
be normal. so i will for the rest of my life be in this flux between
funky hormones...
AHHHHHHHHHH...ok, ill calm down now, thanks for letting me vent.
love, paula
--
please feel free to email me anytime at paulam@kih.net ...remember to put
PCOS in the subject line =)
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:26:30 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Sonnet)
------------------------------
To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105100626.BAA11704@mail.medispecialty.com>
Poor Paula!!
*hugs lots* Girl you know we are all right there with you. This IS a
horrible disease and you're quite right - you didn't do anything to
deserve this happening to your body, no one deserves this happening to
them!! Why should we have to shave and vigilantly follow sadistic diets
and go through the emotional rollercoaster of infertility? It ISN'T
fair. I wish it was!
I just want you to know, of all the people I have ever met (online or
irl) you probably inspire me the most. Look at all the information
you've collected about PCOS! Look at the truly AMAZING way you have
educated yourself about this - and then educated others! if it wasn't
for you Paula, quite seriously, probably hundreds of women wouldn't be
dealing with their PCOS today. There's been so many that have posted
here, and so many more who lurk and read your posts. You know so much,
you can explain it all so well, you never hesitate to extend a hand to
anyone. It may not be a good answer to WHY???, and it may be an answer
you aren't satisfied with - but think for a moment that if you were
totally healthy, if you didn't have PCOS, hundreds of women would be
suffering now that aren't. You've affected so many lives just through
this board alone!
I wish I lived closer so we could go grab a cup of coffee and have a
good chat! I am sending many hugs and good thoughts to you. I value
your friendship so much, as I know others do. I wish I could ease your
frustration a bit! Can you take a rest from the TTC for a month or so
just to break up that tension? Can you do something really good for
yourself? Go have a manicure, or take yourself to a good movie, or buy a
book you've been eyeing, get a massage, something! Of all the people I
know, YOU deserve THAT!
Don't ever let having PCOS hold you back. It didn't, not at all! It
just shifted your course to a different direction. You're not summed up
by a disease! You're a much greater woman than that!
I probably should have emailed you but this is all typed now so I am
posting it :P Hope you don't care! Take care of yourself. As always I
am around, if you need anything, you let me know! If it's in my power,
I'm there for you!
love, Sonn
At Thu, 10 May 2001, paula wrote:
>
>i have really been in the blahs for the past 2 weeks. i couldn't figure
>out why really so just decided it must be stress or school or something.
>but tonight, while taking a bath (i do all my deep thinking there lol) i
>figuered out what it is. I AM TIRED OF HAVING PCOS!!! i am tired of it
>being the end all be all of my existance. i wake up in the morning,
>take my BBT hopeing for that tell-tale dip in temp that never really
>comes. then i roll over go back to sleep, wake up, find breakfast...not
>too many carbs now, you dont want an insulin reaction, take my
>meds...shave my face!!! (no woman should ever have to do that on a daily
>basis) go off to school/work/whatever...come home, mentally and
>physically exhausted, take more meds, watch more carbs...know i need to
>exercise, go have sex with hubby "just in case".
>
>my life would have been so much different without this. i was gonna be
>a doctor! i am so tired of life revolving around me being sick. im
>tired of being sick, i have been sick my whole damn life. people talk
>about how God wont give you more than you can handle, and everything
>happens for a reason...but I CANT HANDLE THIS...and i see no reason for
>it. i am tired of it, i am sick of it...and i think that i need a
>break...i need a bone thrown at me. what could possibly be the reason
>for feeling like crap all the time? for not being able to have children?
>
>im sorry guys, i think its PMS, or just simply this damn illness. i
>cant seem to get motivated. so i have sulked for the past 2 weeks, and
>i have to tell you, i have eaten a lot of ice cream...back to the
>emotional eating you see....and i have once again gained weight back...i
>can tell. it is freakin amazing how fast we can put on weight ya know?
>and my hair is growing faster again, which means i have mucked up my
>insulin again....so now i have to start all over...back to the stupid
>drawing board...i just dont know that i can do it...
>
>you know, it is a cruel thing, this disease, it makes you fat, makes you
>hairy, makes you an emotional wreck so you cant deal with being fat and
>hairy. so it is like this feedback loop...i know that no matter how
>much weight i lose, or how normal my insulin is, my emotions will never
>be normal. so i will for the rest of my life be in this flux between
>funky hormones...
>
>AHHHHHHHHHH...ok, ill calm down now, thanks for letting me vent.
>
>love, paula
>
>--
>please feel free to email me anytime at paulam@kih.net ...remember to put
PCOS in the subject line =)
>
--
Email always welcome to: sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:32:30 EDT
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: melasma(brown patches)
Message-ID: <3a.14ac13f9.282bf26e@aol.com>
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Hi,
I have those too on my legs, and they do get darker with sunlight for
some reasons. I have no clue as to how to get rid of them because I have
never thought about it. Somebody told me that it could have something to do
with me having insulin resistance, but I don't have that, so I am not sure.
I do have PCOS, and I am a hypoglycemic, that is the extent of me though. I
hope you find the help you are looking for. Good luck.
Susan P.
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:33:42 EDT
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: melasma(brown patches)
Message-ID: <f4.9eace6a.282bf2b6@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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In reply to this message, I have to say that I have NEVER been on birth
control, and I have these same brown spots, so I really don't believe the
pill has anything to do with it.
Susan P.
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:21:42 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Zowie)
------------------------------
To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105101421.JAA25216@mail.medispecialty.com>
I second what Sonnet said!!! Paula, you have been SO immensely helpful
to us ALL. I wouldn't have known a LOT if it wasn't for you (and I
thank you for being brave enough to agree with me or correct me when I'm
wrong---I'm still learning!). I feel the SAME way as you do though. I'm
not sure if this is really "depression" or not (thinking if this is
really medically related to the PCOS or just us beins so DARN sick and
tired of it!), but I feel it too and I know it does affect you
emotionally, physically and mentally. Sometimes I don't even want to
wake UP in the morning. I literally HATE having to keep searching my
closet and drawers thinking "is this shirt long enough to cover my
stomach?" Why can't I wear those cute crop tops like all the other
women? (Well, we all know WHY but it still isn't fair!). This happens
ALL DAY LONG to me because I stay home all day (don't work) and am
thankful I can wear "regular clothes" while no one's around, but I HATE
when I know maintenance is coming by, or I'm expecting a package---I
NEED A LONG SHIRT! Even if my hair is all messed up, it's the SHIRT I'm
worried about! So I know EXACTLY how you feel. I don't even HAVE a
libido and my husband prefers "other" sexual actions versus actual sex
(makes me feel terrific to know this BTW) [that was sarcastic] so
believe me, I'm under a lot of stress too. I already know some people
are thinking "Yup, she needs Prozac", but I really don't know if this is
considered "depression" or not. I'm just MAD AT THE WORLD and
complaining is what I do BEST--although I've really toned that down. I
just wish we could all FEEL BETTER physically, and then we'd start
feeling better EMOTIONALLY. I hate living life so pissed off all the
time (complaining again---see? even when I don't mean to--I don't
realize!). Well, I know this won't cheer you up in the least, but I
wanted to share my 2¢ with you to at least let you know...
M E E E E E T O O O O O O !
Hang in there woman---that's all we can do.
Lots of love and huggies--
Zowie *<:)
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:55:51 -0400
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From: "Amy" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <3AFAABF7.F9B70A81@trism.com>
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bless your heart with the Husband thing. I left mine shortly after
Thanksgiving due to his irrational handlings on my weight .. He was so mean,
unaffectionate and abusive both physically and verbally. I knew that in
order for
me to have good emotional health and better life, I needed to rid myself of
the
extra stress ... So I left Eric and I have lost 38 lbs with weight watchers
... I
bought all the info off of ebay and it has been wonderful!! You hang in
there...
I know it doesnt feel like it but things will get better as long as you make
somewhat of an effort to help it all along .. I thought I was going to have
to
admit myself into a clinic due to the depression and all, but when I
realized and
took steps to help myself, I realized the things in my life that had to
change 1st
and formost what was making me hurt so bad ... so I did that and that helped
me be
able to focus on Amy ... At any rate, I just wanted to let you know that i
know
how it is to be so mad and sad at yourself about yourself ... I think one of
my
last draws was when I had an anxiety attack at a baby shower .. it was
horrible.
Hang in there .. I know I dont post very much and when I do it is usually
just a
few lines, but I care about each and every one of you as women and human
beings
going through such a trying life.
Always XOXO - Amy
Zowie wrote:
> I second what Sonnet said!!! Paula, you have been SO immensely helpful
> to us ALL. I wouldn't have known a LOT if it wasn't for you (and I
> thank you for being brave enough to agree with me or correct me when I'm
> wrong---I'm still learning!). I feel the SAME way as you do though. I'm
> not sure if this is really "depression" or not (thinking if this is
> really medically related to the PCOS or just us beins so DARN sick and
> tired of it!), but I feel it too and I know it does affect you
> emotionally, physically and mentally. Sometimes I don't even want to
> wake UP in the morning. I literally HATE having to keep searching my
> closet and drawers thinking "is this shirt long enough to cover my
> stomach?" Why can't I wear those cute crop tops like all the other
> women? (Well, we all know WHY but it still isn't fair!). This happens
> ALL DAY LONG to me because I stay home all day (don't work) and am
> thankful I can wear "regular clothes" while no one's around, but I HATE
> when I know maintenance is coming by, or I'm expecting a package---I
> NEED A LONG SHIRT! Even if my hair is all messed up, it's the SHIRT I'm
> worried about! So I know EXACTLY how you feel. I don't even HAVE a
> libido and my husband prefers "other" sexual actions versus actual sex
> (makes me feel terrific to know this BTW) [that was sarcastic] so
> believe me, I'm under a lot of stress too. I already know some people
> are thinking "Yup, she needs Prozac", but I really don't know if this is
> considered "depression" or not. I'm just MAD AT THE WORLD and
> complaining is what I do BEST--although I've really toned that down. I
> just wish we could all FEEL BETTER physically, and then we'd start
> feeling better EMOTIONALLY. I hate living life so pissed off all the
> time (complaining again---see? even when I don't mean to--I don't
> realize!). Well, I know this won't cheer you up in the least, but I
> wanted to share my 2¢ with you to at least let you know...
> M E E E E E T O O O O O O !
> Hang in there woman---that's all we can do.
> Lots of love and huggies--
> Zowie *<:)
>
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:05:20 -0500 (CDT)
------------------------------
From: anonymous@obgyn.net
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105101505.KAA06856@mail.medispecialty.com>
((((((((((((((Paula)))))))))))))))
I havent been posting much the past 2 weeks because I have been feeling
the blahs myself. and lately comming online and reading and writing
posts here was just a constant reminder of PCOS to me..I needed a break
from it for a while. I am also having to start over again with this
illness. I had to find a new Doctor and we all know how that can be. I
also just stopped taking all of my meds and i'm not dieting...and I know
thats why I probably feel yucky
but I just want to live normally for just a little while till I see my
new Doctor.
I have learned a lot from you by reading your posts Paula and admire you
and I appreciate you. I know that all the encouraging words in the
world wont take PCOS away but sometimes just knowing that there are
others out there going through a lot of the same crap is comforting.
For the longest time I felt that NO ONE could possibly be going through
this hell but me. I have since learned that there are many of us out
there...and some who still haven't been dx that are probably feeling as
though they are going crazy as I was 2 years ago.
Sonnet I'm glad you didn't write her that posting in private e mail
because what you said hit home for many of us.
I think we all agree with you sonnet Paula is a treasure. and so are
you Sonnet.
Much Love,Dona
>
>Poor Paula!!
>
>*hugs lots* Girl you know we are all right there with you. This IS a
>horrible disease and you're quite right - you didn't do anything to
>deserve this happening to your body, no one deserves this happening to
>them!! Why should we have to shave and vigilantly follow sadistic diets
>and go through the emotional rollercoaster of infertility? It ISN'T
>fair. I wish it was!
>
>I just want you to know, of all the people I have ever met (online or
>irl) you probably inspire me the most. Look at all the information
>you've collected about PCOS! Look at the truly AMAZING way you have
>educated yourself about this - and then educated others! if it wasn't
>for you Paula, quite seriously, probably hundreds of women wouldn't be
>dealing with their PCOS today. There's been so many that have posted
>here, and so many more who lurk and read your posts. You know so much,
>you can explain it all so well, you never hesitate to extend a hand to
>anyone. It may not be a good answer to WHY???, and it may be an answer
>you aren't satisfied with - but think for a moment that if you were
>totally healthy, if you didn't have PCOS, hundreds of women would be
>suffering now that aren't. You've affected so many lives just through
>this board alone!
>
>I wish I lived closer so we could go grab a cup of coffee and have a
>good chat! I am sending many hugs and good thoughts to you. I value
>your friendship so much, as I know others do. I wish I could ease your
>frustration a bit! Can you take a rest from the TTC for a month or so
>just to break up that tension? Can you do something really good for
>yourself? Go have a manicure, or take yourself to a good movie, or buy a
>book you've been eyeing, get a massage, something! Of all the people I
>know, YOU deserve THAT!
>
>Don't ever let having PCOS hold you back. It didn't, not at all! It
>just shifted your course to a different direction. You're not summed up
>by a disease! You're a much greater woman than that!
>
>I probably should have emailed you but this is all typed now so I am
>posting it :P Hope you don't care! Take care of yourself. As always I
>am around, if you need anything, you let me know! If it's in my power,
>I'm there for you!
>
>love, Sonn
>
>At Thu, 10 May 2001, paula wrote:
>>
>>i have really been in the blahs for the past 2 weeks. i couldn't figure
>>out why really so just decided it must be stress or school or something.
>>but tonight, while taking a bath (i do all my deep thinking there lol) i
>>figuered out what it is. I AM TIRED OF HAVING PCOS!!! i am tired of it
>>being the end all be all of my existance. i wake up in the morning,
>>take my BBT hopeing for that tell-tale dip in temp that never really
>>comes. then i roll over go back to sleep, wake up, find breakfast...not
>>too many carbs now, you dont want an insulin reaction, take my
>>meds...shave my face!!! (no woman should ever have to do that on a daily
>>basis) go off to school/work/whatever...come home, mentally and
>>physically exhausted, take more meds, watch more carbs...know i need to
>>exercise, go have sex with hubby "just in case".
>>
>>my life would have been so much different without this. i was gonna be
>>a doctor! i am so tired of life revolving around me being sick. im
>>tired of being sick, i have been sick my whole damn life. people talk
>>about how God wont give you more than you can handle, and everything
>>happens for a reason...but I CANT HANDLE THIS...and i see no reason for
>>it. i am tired of it, i am sick of it...and i think that i need a
>>break...i need a bone thrown at me. what could possibly be the reason
>>for feeling like crap all the time? for not being able to have children?
>>
>>im sorry guys, i think its PMS, or just simply this damn illness. i
>>cant seem to get motivated. so i have sulked for the past 2 weeks, and
>>i have to tell you, i have eaten a lot of ice cream...back to the
>>emotional eating you see....and i have once again gained weight back...i
>>can tell. it is freakin amazing how fast we can put on weight ya know?
>>and my hair is growing faster again, which means i have mucked up my
>>insulin again....so now i have to start all over...back to the stupid
>>drawing board...i just dont know that i can do it...
>>
>>you know, it is a cruel thing, this disease, it makes you fat, makes you
>>hairy, makes you an emotional wreck so you cant deal with being fat and
>>hairy. so it is like this feedback loop...i know that no matter how
>>much weight i lose, or how normal my insulin is, my emotions will never
>>be normal. so i will for the rest of my life be in this flux between
>>funky hormones...
>>
>>AHHHHHHHHHH...ok, ill calm down now, thanks for letting me vent.
>>
>>love, paula
>>
>>--
>>please feel free to email me anytime at paulam@kih.net ...remember to put
PCOS in the subject line =)
>>
>--
>Email always welcome to: sonnet_fitz@hotmail.com
>
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Belinda)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105101539.KAA22883@mail.medispecialty.com>
At Thu, 10 May 2001, Zowie wrote:
>
hey Zowie - you reminded me about when a friend of mine went to the Dr,
and told her that she was feeling really stressed, and told her why. The
dr said "you're not suffering from depression - you're just having a
REALLY crap time!!!"
she gave her Prozac anyway - being depressed coz things are going wrong
can be just as awful as suffering from the illness of depression!
take care everyone - and especially Paula - you're there for all of us
so constantly - please know that we're all here for you! Yes this thing
is horrible - and sometimes "being brave" and showing everyone how
strong you're being in coping with it is as much hard work as fighting
the problem itself. But IT IS OK to sometimes take time out from all
that - give yourself a break, do something nice...I think I ovulated a
couple of days ago, so I've told my hubby that any sex from now to the
end of the month has got to be "just for fun!!!!" - I'd forgotton what
that was like!!! sorry - got a bit sidetracked there!!
anyway, do look after yourself, and come and scream and shout at us
whenever you want to !!!
love to everyone,
Belinda xxx
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:42:05 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (jodi)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: melasma(brown patches)
Message-ID: <200105101542.KAA23875@mail.medispecialty.com>
No, it does. :) the original poster said she is on BCPs and the patches
started after that. these dark spots on the face (i don't think you get
them anywhere else, if they are BCP or preg related) are one of those
side effects you hear about but hardly ever experience. it's possible
that just having naturally screwed up hormones could do it too - but i
don't know. the only times i have read of women having this is while on
BCPs or while pregant, and i have only ever heard of it happening on the
face.
of course, as always, i could be wrong. but based on what i've read for
the last 8 years od so, that's my understanding. (i was terrified of
this happening when i first when on the pill at age 16... that's how i
know it can be a pill side effect.)
- jodi
At Thu, 10 May 2001, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>
>In reply to this message, I have to say that I have NEVER been on birth
>control, and I have these same brown spots, so I really don't believe the
>pill has anything to do with it.
>Susan P.
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (jodi)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105101545.KAA25123@mail.medispecialty.com>
paula, i son't think i can say much that hasn't been said but...
i understand completely. small comfort, i know, to be understood in
something no one should ever have to experience... but, what can ya do?
hope you're feeling happier about things soon
- jodi
(i feel like i shouldn't reply at all because i am in a hurry and can't
take much time - but i wanted to say at least i understand and you are
not alone in feeling whiny and ranty when it comes to all of this!!!!)
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:32:21 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Deb)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: After hysterectomy and R oophorectomy
Message-ID: <200105101632.LAA10252@mail.medispecialty.com>
I am 36 years old, have PCOS & Diabetes and 6 years ago had a
hysterectomy and R oophorectomy due to uterine hyperplasia and stage 1
uterine cancer. They drilled my remaining left ovary and kept it. Now,
I have found out that I have a very large mass on this ovary- five
inches by 3 inches. I have talked to my doctor and he thinks that they
will ilkely try just removing the mass and leave the ovary, that is if
it isn't cancer. I want them to take it out and put me on hormone
replacement because I do not want the threat of cancer looming over me.
MY doc also said that the likelihood of this happening again is quite
high. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they are so reluctant
to remove it, all they keep saying is I am so young! I feel I am way to
young to be worrying about wether or not that ovary is going to kill me
someday.
I was wondering if anyone has any experiences like mine to share with
me. I need some advice from people who really know how it feels to be
in this situation. You can email me at dmatters@silvercrest.ab.ca.
Thanks for your replies.
Deb
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:05:08 -0400
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: melasma(brown patches)
Message-ID: <OFBF5D3B02.5CB83616-ON85256A48.005D93D7@harcourtbrace.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Yup, I have the brown patches BUT they are only noticeable if I spend too
much time in the sun or don't use sunblock. Just make sure you don't go in
the sun unprotected!
There are many medications that make a person more sensitive to sun...
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:15:13 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Anonymus)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Re: whine/rant/vent, ***HUGS*** (long =)
Message-ID: <200105101715.MAA12241@mail.medispecialty.com>
Paula I am no good at words but wanted to tell you think it as your
testing time and God has put you on one of his worst possible test. Have
faith in your self and prove to the world that such problems wont deter
at all. Take care.
Love
Anon
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:53:46 -0500 (CDT)
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From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Michelle)
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Subject: Zowie.. that 'L' thing
Message-ID: <200105101953.OAA08473@mail.medispecialty.com>
Zowie - I know that you think I have been negligent and inconsiderate by
not telling you what the diagnosis was. Please understand that I only
got ahold of the information today - and I was tested back on April 17.
Can you imagine?! So... here's the scoop: I received a triple diagnosis
of PCOS/Lipodystrophy/Diabetes Type 2.
Email me with any questions - and I am truly sorry that I am only
getting the information to you now. Perhaps you can speak with your
doctor and see if that little "symptom" has anything to do with this
condition.
Michelle. <)))><<
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:14:02 -0400
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From: "Rachel" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
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To: anonymous@obgyn.net
Message-ID: <F215ifffEkZNrSClxnp00002f08@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT BODY TEMP AM I LOOKING FOR IF I'M OVULATING?
i HAVE BEEN ON GLUCOPHAGE FOR 3 WKS NOW.. NO PERIOD ... i BOUGHT A FIVE DAY
KIT.. AND NOTHING!!! HELP :(
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