Re: To Amy, and any other UK pcos ers.
From: Amy (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:14:23 -0400
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To be honest, in my opinion, the low carb diets are not for everyone ... different
things work for different people. I know alot of women with PCOS eat little carbs,
but it didnt work for me ... I eat a balanced diet and it works for me - like weight
watchers ... I have lost 30 lbs. ... and I have 40 more to go before I am at my goal
weight. (Yeah for me!!) hahaahha I think you just need to find what works for you
and go with it. I can tell you this ... if you do atkins .. please drink LOTS of
water and dont make it a lifestyle. Good Luck to you ... Amy
monica wrote:
> hannah,
>
> Can u tell me why the Atkins is good for PCOS. And wuld u recommend it?
>
> thanks
> monica
> At Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Hannah wrote:
> >
> >Thanks for your replies Debbie & Cathy. I don't know what you both think
> >but sharing experiences definitely makes living with this easier on a day to
> >day basis.
> >
> >I've now been registered with this site for just over a week and the
> >information and stories here have spurred me on to find a GP in the area
> >that will help me. I don't feel comfortable going back to my regular GP and
> >as a last resort I would have considered going back to my Gy even though he
> >didn't seem to know too much about PCOS - put symptoms down to my weight -
> >the usual story.
> >
> >I'm lucky to have a wonderful mum who I spoke to last night describing my
> >frustration and not only the physical but also mental conditions of PCOS.
> >She sympathised because she has experienced something familiar and I'm lucky
> >as she works for the NHS Trust here in Medway so knows alot about the
> >different clinics etc. She works with a lady who's daughter was diagnosed
> >with PCOS and has had children with the help of a GP (a lady) who works at a
> >family planning clinic in the area and I've been lucky and got an
> >appointment to see her in 2 weeks.
> >
> >I'm sure it will help if I can just "vent off" my concerns and
> >disappointments. I just want to find someone who will offer genuine
> >professional help not only in TTC but during the early stages to. I intend
> >to go in with all the info I've learnt and some facts from the books that
> >I've been researching from but I hope she'll be more clued up then the other
> >professionals I've already seen.
> >
> >I've kicked started the Atkins diet again and intend to approach the whole
> >thing with a new optamisium.
> >
> >Thanks Debbie & Cathy and everyone else - you've played a huge part. I
> >can't tell you how I'm looking forward to my appointment already - sad.....
> >
> >Hannah
> >
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> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: debbiemitch@blueyonder.co.uk [SMTP:debbiemitch@blueyonder.co.uk]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:53 PM
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
> >> Subject: Re: To Amy, and any other UK pcos ers.
> >>
> >> Hi Hannah
> >>
> >> When I first went to the doctor my symptoms I described were dry skin on
> >> my face, lack of periods say about 2 - 3 months apart, weight gain. I
> >> did not know about PCOS and I probably had more of the symptoms but did
> >> not realise that they were related (skin tags, hair growth, spots) She
> >> sent me for a blood test for hormone and thyroid. She said it could be
> >> either PCOS or under active thyroid. She also sent me for a scan. When
> >> the blood tests came back I did not see my normal doctor and the one I
> >> did see said they were normal and nothing to worry about end of story. I
> >> was not happy so I booked an appointment with my doctor and by then the
> >> scan result had came back showing I had cysts. My doctor also said my
> >> hormones were ok and my thyroid was ok. She then gave me the choice of
> >> doing the tests again or being referred to a specialist whom she said
> >> would probably repeat the tests. I opted for the specialist. When I
> >> saw the specialist he asked me about my periods, by that time I had lost
> >> 3 stone by dieting so I explained this I also mentioned my hair growth
> >> (by this time I knew a little bit about the symptoms of PCOS) He asked
> >> me if I was trying to conceive and if I wanted to loose more weight. I
> >> said yes. He then proscribed metformin saying it would help me loose
> >> weight and stabilise my periods making it easier to conceive.
> >>
> >> As far as I know I have not been tested for IR - I will be asking my
> >> doctor about this on my next visit.
> >>
> >> When I first went on Metformin my second period came on exactly 28 days
> >> I could not believe it, but since then it has slow got worse but only by
> >> about a week late.
> >>
> >> I don't really know a lot about PCOS until the weekend when I started
> >> looking at this web site but I think you need to talk to your doctor
> >> about the best way forward as you say armed with all the info. I think
> >> you have to really push for more to be done. Have you thought about
> >> changing doctors if you are not happy with his advice? How are you
> >> trying to loose weight as I know it is difficult - I lost it going to
> >> slimming world classes on their 'green' (hi carb diet I did not know I
> >> should have been on low carb) I have now switched to their 'red' diet
> >> which is low carb.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps and it works out - let me know how you get on.
> >>
> >> Debbie.
> >>
> >> At Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Hannah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hi Debbie,
> >> >
> >> >I wondered if you could answer a few Q's I have.
> >> >
> >> >Brief History:-
> >> >
> >> >I was diagnosed by a Gynaecologist back in March (referred to by my Dr
> >> >because I'd not had a period and my skin and weight was bad). I should
> >> say
> >> >my husband and I were/are TTC. The Gyn examined me and booked me for a
> >> scan
> >> >to confirm his diagnosis of PCOS which was conclusive. He simply told me
> >> to
> >> >go away and lose weight and when I was at a comfortable weight (and not
> >> at
> >> >such a heavy weight to carry a baby) I could go back and get the Clomid
> >> >prescription. That's how it was left back in April last year (2000).
> >> >
> >> >I've been taking herbal remedies religiously since September and have had
> >> >some success: had 2 periods after a gap of 14 months (looking like every
> >> 3
> >> >months), skins better (not completely clear) and I've had some success
> >> with
> >> >my weight (I struggle with this).
> >> >
> >> >I recently read an article about the importance of EFA's and I've
> >> recently
> >> >started taking Evening Primrose Oil (Omega 3) and Flaxseed Oil (Omega 6).
> >> >
> >> >Questions:-
> >> >
> >> >1. Did your specialists do any IR tests on you before prescribing Met?
> >> >
> >> > I've read lots of messages here that say they're on this dosage or
> >> >that dosage but nothing that says what
> >> > tests, if any, they've had to go through.
> >> >
> >> >2. What reason did he give you for prescribing Met?
> >> >3. Do you have problems with your periods?
> >> >4. Do you think I should go back to the Gyn or my Dr to try and get the
> >> >prescription?
> >> >
> >> >My Dr's not the most approachable man and I'm worried I'll let him
> >> dismiss
> >> >me. I hope you can sympathise knowing the UK Health System. I've had a
> >> >couple of PCOS books delivered today which I'll start reading at
> >> lunchtime
> >> >to see if they recommend any other treatments - it's just that Met sounds
> >> >like it's as hard to come by in the UK as Gold Dust.
> >> >
> >> >I'd appreciate any advice you can give me - I want to make sure I'm clued
> >> up
> >> >before even thinking about going to my Dr or Gyn.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you.
> >> >
> >> >Hannah
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: SusieQ [SMTP:Susiecoug@hotmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:21 PM
> >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
> >> >> Subject: Re: To Amy, and any other UK pcos ers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Debbie, I appreciate it!!
> >> >>
> >> >> SusieQ
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I think it works different in the UK - I went to see my local GP who
> >> >> >referred me to a specalist at the Hospital as she said my hormone
> >> >> >results came back as normal. When I saw the specalist he said that
> >> they
> >> >> >were not - confused! I had a scann and there was a small cyst. I also
> >> >> >have the hair thing. It was the specalist that proscribed metformin.
> >> I
> >> >> >now just see my local GP agin for more of the drug. I can't remember
> >> >> >the specalist's name but the hospital was Frenchay in North Bristol.
> >> >> >Bristol is in the south west of the country and I think Lancaster is
> >> up
> >> >> >north somewhere. Please pass on this information - I will try and
> >> find
> >> >> >out what the Specalist's name was.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good Luck to your sister.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Debbie
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At Sun, 8 Apr 2001, SusieQ wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Debbie,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Who is your doc? My sis married a Brit, and has pcos, and can not
> >> find a
> >> >> >>decent doc in the UK. She is in Lancaster - how far is that from
> >> >> >>Bristol? I would love to give her the name of your doc if you are
> >> >> >>willing?? Many thanks.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>luck and love, SusieQ
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Hi - I am from the UK and I am on Metformin, when the specalist
> >> >> >>>proscribed it he did not say it was being tested. I am from
> >> Bristol,
> >> >> >>>where are you?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>At Sat, 7 Apr 2001, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Hello fellow UK PCO 'er
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>I have just asked my gyno about Metformin and he says I can't have
> >> it
> >> >> as
> >> >> >>>>its only just being tested in UK. Sorry!
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>I'm sticking with Spiro for now- until this comes along.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>At Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Clare wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>Oh, and we were all just getting excited over on this side of the
> >> >> >>>>>Atlantic! Nevermind....still looking!
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>--
> >> >> >>>>>Clare
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>At Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Amy wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>Ohhh I am in the U.S., Hun ... I live in Georgia :) Amy
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>Clare wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Amy - congratulations on getting metformin in the UK! Which
> >> >> hospital do
> >> >> >>>>>>> you go to for this?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I had a gynaecology appointment yesterday which only revolved
> >> >> around
> >> >> >>>>>>> which Pill I should be on. I asked about insulin resistance,
> >> but
> >> >> got a
> >> >> >>>>>>> vague response about links with type II diabetes later in life.
> >> >> When I
> >> >> >>>>>>> asked about any other types of treatment, different Pills were
> >> >> listed!
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I had hoped this would be an opportunity to update my treatment
> >> >> (which
> >> >> >>>>>>> is currently Pill + cyproterone acetate) but it wasn't to be.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I'm thinking of asking my GP to refer elsewhere, so would be
> >> >> interested
> >> >> >>>>>>> to know who is treating you.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Hope you can help!
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Clare
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> At Fri, 06 Apr 2001, Amy wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >Hi Hannah (I love your name)
> >> >> >>>>>>> >Well apparently PCOS is caused by irregular insulin levels
> >> which
> >> >> actually comes
> >> >> >>>>>>> >around full circle. She put me on met (a form of insulin used
> >> to
> >> >> treat mild
> >> >> >>>>>>> >diabetes) to even keel in insulin levels.
> >> >> >>>>>>> >I have seen some results .. I have not been as faithful as I
> >> >> should be with it ..
> >> >> >>>>>>> >I have always had a problem taking meds long term ..
> >> >> >>>>>>> >I do have severe PCOS .. both Ovaries are bad and the
> >> ultrasound
> >> >> before last found
> >> >> >>>>>>> >a cyst in my uterus .. the last ultrasound showed that it
> >> doubled
> >> >> in size in 6
> >> >> >>>>>>> >months and I am due for another in 1 month. My Ob/Gyn said
> >> that
> >> >> if it has changed
> >> >> >>>>>>> >at all, then she will want to do surgery. Check this link out
> >> ..
> >> >> it will give you
> >> >> >>>>>>> >more info on meds ...
> >> >> >>>>>>> > Treatment of Polycystic Ovary Syndrome with Insulin Lowering
> >> >> Medications
> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >Keep in touch!! Amy
> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >Hannah Wait wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi Amy,
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> How did you get the Dr to give you Met and have you seen any
> >> >> improvements
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> with your symptoms?
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> What reason's did you give your Dr for giving it to you -
> >> I'm
> >> >> def going to
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> see my Dr about this and I'd love as much info as possible.
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Thanks.
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Hannah
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Give to your favourite charities and get up to 40% tax
> >> relief
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> ....plus a 10% bonus from Government
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> http://www.allaboutgiving.org
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> ____________________________________________
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Hannah Wait, PA to Communications Director
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> ____________________________________________
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> ____________________________________________
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> >> >> >>>>>>> >> HWait@caf.charitynet.org
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> +(44) 01732 520177
> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > From: Amy Cochran [SMTP:amy.cochran@trism.com]
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:50 PM
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: Linda and Hannah, and any other UK pcos
> >> >> ers.
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > Hi there ... I am on Metformin and Levlite .. :) Amy
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > Dave and Catherine Smith wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > Hi ladies, I was beginning to think that I was the only UK
> >> >> lady who
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > frequented the board. It would be very good if we could
> >> keep
> >> >> each other
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > upadated with the types of care we are receiving. I have
> >> >> *fingers crossed*
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > just got myself a doctor who is willing to treat me rather
> >> >> than just
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > prescribe bcp and weight loss. I have to wait until May
> >> 18th
> >> >> for my
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > appointment, but that will soon come around. How did you
> >> >> convince your
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > doctor to prescribe metformin?Please feel free to email me
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > dave.cathy.smith@blueyonder.co.uk
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > <mailto:dave.cathy.smith@blueyonder.co.uk> I would love to
> >> >> hear your
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > stories and successes. (please put PCOS in the title - I
> >> am
> >> >> virus
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > paranoid!!!!)Cathy
> >> >> >>>>>>> >> > "You cannot have a rainbow without first having some
> >> rain."
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